Talk:Digambara/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 02:18, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

I will review this. It is a good one, but I believe we need to do much copyediting:

• In the lead, please remove the citations and add the facts stated here to the main body of the article. If already mentioned and cited in the main body then please remove the citations - you don't need to add them in the lead. The lead is just a summary, a subset of the main body; so all the facts of the lead should be added and provided with citations in the main body.

Nearly done, only one citation remains which can be easily shifted to the main text. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:58, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

• It is very weird that the most important facts are in the lead but not in the main body! The article looks inadequate due to this. You need to add all the info in the lead to the main body; keep only the most important facts in the lead. The lead should be proportional to the article in its size. This is the most important issue with the article.
• In places you say "digambara" and then "Digambar". You should say "Digambara" everywhere.

Has this been done? Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:58, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I did not notice any inconsistency in the present revision. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 03:57, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

• The word digambara is a combination of two words: Derived from which language?

I fixed it a bit more. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:58, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

• The word digambara is a combination of two words: dig (directions) and ambara (clothes). Those whose garments are the element that fills the four quarters of space are called digambara This could be better phrased and combined as "The word digambara is a combination of two words: dig (directions) and ambara (clothes), referring to those whose garments are of the element that fills the four quarters of space."
• Monks in the Digambara tradition don't I have never seen "don't" in articles, better say "do not".
• a water gourd and "gourd, and"
• Explain or link Anga
• taking permission of of-->from
• Link Acharya
• Try to keep all non-English words in italics.

Is this being done? Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:58, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Done a deeper check, looks good. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 03:56, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

• 28 vows should in fact be written as 28 vratas (vows). You are explaining vratas through vows, not vows through vratas.
• Every Digambara monk is required to follow 28 vows (vratas) compulsory. Sounds awkward, reword like "It is mandatory for every Digambara monk to follow 28 vows (vratas)"
• Which source covers which fact? Does ref. 13 cover all the table? Are the separate references complementary?

I have added the required references. -Nimit (talk) 14:01, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Better. Thank you जैन. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 14:29, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

The references have been moved to the head column. These references support the content present in the rows.-Nimit (talk) 07:06, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

• You can see my comments at Talk:Jain monasticism/GA1 and take care of the table.
• What is no. 24 called?
• a cryptographic work by the digambara monk, Kumudendu Muni is not yet --> a cryptographic work by the digambara monk Kumudendu Muni, is not yet
• In the 10th century AD or BC?
• No intro in Lineage? There should be at least an idea about the table.
• Source for table in Lineage?
• Siribhoovalaya, a cryptographic work by the digambara monk, Kumudendu Muni has not yet deciphered completely.
• In the 10th century, Digambar tradition was divided into two main orders. Source?
• give insight about the antiquity of the Digambara tradition. Source?
• Can you merge the sections under Historicity? And if possible expand it?
• The single quotes should be converted to double quotes in "Scriptures"
• Write something about the sects in "Sub-sects".

Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 02:18, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

@Capankajsmilyo: Good work, but looks like there was some carelessness, I have made some fixes. Please update in the GA review page, it will help me check what has been done and what has not. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:58, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

@Capankajsmilyo: Thanks for your efforts. The main trouble now is with verifiablity; some parts do not have sources. I will do the necessary copyediting. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 03:56, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

@Capankajsmilyo: Please pay some attention here or at least let me know if you are busy. The issues remaining need your attention now. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 03:44, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

I have tried and resolved almost every issue raised here. The citation one though is not that easy one. I am trying to find sources. Any suggestions for the same? Also can you please point out the unsourced parts as I find the article cited almost everywhere. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 03:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

@Capankajsmilyo: Thanks for the update. Here are the (appearing to be) unsourced parts: Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 04:49, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• Spiritual lineage of heads of monastic orders is known as Pattavali. (Lineage)
• Siribhoovalaya, a cryptographic work by Kumudendu Muni (a Digambara monk), has not yet been deciphered completely.
• The two tables. How are the sources arranged? Do they support each and every point of the tables? I need to be sure of this.

Cleanup and sourcing done. @Sainsf Please have a relook. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 08:01, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Capankajsmilyo, I believe this article is ready for promotion now. Great job! Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 08:24, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Yipeeee! Thanks! -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 08:28, 11 April 2016 (UTC)