Talk:Deceit (2021 miniseries)

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Murder or killing?

The man who was eventually found to have killed Rachel Nickell was convicted of manslaughter not murder, so should we avoid the term "murder" in this article? Note that the relevant article refers to the Killing of Rachel Nickell. PatGallacher (talk) 14:38, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I understand where you're coming from now. I think where the use of 'murder' is coming from is looking at it from the side of the police carrying out their investigation, which would've been a murder investigation. Therefore, even though the eventual court verdict was manslaughter, this doesn't change the fact that at the time in 1992 it was a murder investigation. This may be something that could be clarified in the article, I agree, though how to do so may depend on how the series ends (I've not watched it all myself yet, following broadcast dates rather than streaming it). H. Carver (talk) 14:55, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed page merge

[Because the proposer hasn't posted on the talk page themselves, here is the page edit summary for the proposed merge, to start any conversation] Deceit (2021 TV series) was created first; this title is inappropriate, because Deceit (TV serial) is also a miniseries. H. Carver (talk) 00:14, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ThoughI take the point about the word 'miniseries', it's also arguable that the title of the other article is also inappropriate because it introduces a series/serial inconsistency which would show up glaringly on the Deceit (disambiguation). If the title is the issue, it would seem the simpler solution would be to delete Deceit (2021 TV series) and rename this one Deceit (2021 TV serial). H. Carver (talk) 00:22, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The 2000 article should also be renamed. They're both miniseries, so they could be at Deceit (2000 miniseries) & Deceit (2021 miniseries). Whatever is done with the title of the eariler series, this needs to be merged into Deceit (2021 TV series) first; that article was created before this one. None of the articles should be deleted - this article & Deceit (TV serial) are ambiguous, so should both be redirected to Deceit (disambiguation) once the page moves have been done. Jim Michael (talk) 04:31, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Having read up further on guidelines regarding mergers, I concede that neither should be deleted. What I couldn't find anywhere was something saying that the page created first should be kept, so why not merge into this one to preserve the history, given this one has more structure, more information, and more sources? H. Carver (talk) 07:15, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's usual to merge the duplicate into the original. However, the more important thing is to keep all the info from both. Jim Michael (talk) 07:32, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As this discussion has stalled I have decided to be bold and merge the other page into this one, which appears to be the more developed. The issue of the page title is slightly separate which we can deal with later. PatGallacher (talk) 21:26, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now that we have a stable version following the merge, this leaves the issue of what to call it. I suggest we go with Jim Michal's proposal, "Deceit (2021 miniseries)", the other one should be "Deceit (2000 miniseries)". PatGallacher (talk) 12:36, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Deceit (2021 TV serial/series) would be the appropriate title for this page? And "Deceit (2000 TV serial/series) for the older, serial or series as it's the format for UK series of this length?Halbared (talk) 12:35, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]