Talk:Black-tailed rattlesnake

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Requested move 22 August 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Dane ^talk 03:51, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Crotalus molossus → Black-tailed rattlesnake – (as per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna)#Use the most common name when possible) as this is by far the most common name used for the critter. "Northern black-tailed rattlesnake" refers to the subspecies molossus. No other organism is known by this name. The other common name given "green rattler" appears to be rare. The reptile database uses this name as do many websites and books. The reason many rattlesnake articles are at scientific names is that an early editor objected to common name policy. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:56, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support as per WP:NCFAUNA and WP:COMMONNAME. Both the IUCN and Reptile Database use Black-tailed Rattlesnake, so I think this pretty uncontroversial. — Jts1882 | talk 07:26, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Support there doesn't seem to be any real controversy regarding either the scientific name or common name for this taxon, so use of either seems fine; the only possible complication is what happens if one or more of the subspecies are split off as separate taxa? In that case, the common name will change, but the scientific name will not. But, opposing a move solely because of a possible WP:FUTURE issue is not really appropriate. Still, there may come an "I tolja so" moment. Dyanega (talk) 17:16, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just hate the inconsistency of critters in the same genus at common and scientific names. Ultimately, if we'd been doing this from scratch maybe then all taxa fro the get-go would have been at scientific names, but they're not and we have a naming policy. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:13, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Object, the most common name that the taxon is known by is Crotalus molossus, WP:Common does not mean, most used name OTHER then the taxonomic name, it means most commonly used unambiguous name period. As noted if/when other subspecies are moved the vernacular names become more convoluted and ambiguous.--Kev min § 15:19, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What do you base that assumption on (that the scientific name is the most common name) ? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:53, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.