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NOTE TO ALL EDITORS: This article contains correct information as taught to me by the Royal Corps of Signals at RRS Blandford. However, as means of referencing work of people like myself means nothing, to as a note to all editors of this article, please find references for the information which you have added, and which you continue to add in the future. Thank You Philip.t.day (talk) 23:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]

I'd like to add that the Clansman radio was certainly used on operations before 2 para took it to the Falklands. Operation Agila, 1980 and on operation Banner I believe. Source: I was that soldier ;-)

(Dixx) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dixx (talk • contribs) 18:56, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PRC319

I note that this is not mentioned here, is it not a Clandsman set - it certainly used Clansman ancils? Blackshod (talk) 06:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)82.34.89.229 (talk) 17:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lets keep it in. It was certainly in the family and of the same generation. This is patently untrue. The PRC319 uses 1980s microprocessor technology. The Clansman series is late 1960s technology though the PRC349 incorporates 1970s developments. The PRC319 is compatible with Clansman batteries and accessories but was NEVER part of the Clansman programme. A film about Clansman radios dates to the early 70s (I saw it at the School of Signals Blandford in 1973 at which time the PRC319 was not even conceived, let alone in development!) Please let's forget about the idea of them being "the same generation". The electronics of the Clansman family is basically that of the Concorde and Apollo era!

Also the PRC346 does NOT belong on this page and has nothing to do with it except as a replacement radio from a much later era!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dixx (talk • contribs) 16:53, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to see this removed to the Larskpur section. No, WRONG! the PRC316 was previously known as the A16 which would belong as Larkspur but it is in fact a SIGNIFICANTLY later development than Larkspur though in service at the same time as Larkspur remained in service for decades. PRC316 IS a Clansman designation and the radio was, unlike Larkspur, regarded as interoperable with Clansman due to its high specification and frequency stability.

It clearly states the 316 set predates Clansman by five or more years. Are you sure it uses Clansman ancils? A Clansman set is synthesised and constructed using integrated circuits and transistors. Famously they cover the complete HF Spectrum and are channelised etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dixx (talk • contribs) 20:09, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I propose to continue the style of the user handbook for pictures in the main article to maintain consistency - I think it would be quite nice when finished and least complicated as far as copyright is concerned. These should be supplemented where possible with high quality images which are in the public domain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dixx (talk • contribs) 16:53, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Much of this page is unreferenced or referenced to what appears to be a single self-published website here [1] which as such doesn't look like a reliable source. As the article has been tagged an needing these references since Sept 2008 I propose to start copy editing and removing much of the more obviously uncited statements in the near future. If you have good references that meet verifiability standards please add them Blackshod (talk) 17:22, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please note drive by citation: When calling for citation - please consider the rules which ask you to contribute by adding citations and not just point out they are needed. The rules also allow for well known facts which may therefore not require citation at all. Dixx. Wholesale removal of other peoples hard work without consultation is thought to be classed as vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dixx (talk • contribs) 15:23, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 11 August 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved. Requesting DAB page move at WP:RMT. (non-admin closure) The Duke of Nonsense^{What is necessary for thee?} 19:49, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Clansman → Clansman (military radio)
Clansman (disambiguation) → Clansman

– The British radio system does not seem to be the primary topic. The member of a clan seems much more prominent with no primary topic overall, so the disambiguation page should be placed as primary -- 65.94.42.168 (talk) 03:50, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

Support I am the nominator -- 65.94.42.168 (talk) 03:51, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support the radio system is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC either by usage (see e.g. Google News or Google Books results for "clansman") or page views. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 04:45, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support, the radio is not primary topic. I'm less supportive of moving the dab page; clansmen redirects to clan already and I think that article should be primary topic for "clansman" as well. —Xezbeth (talk) 05:59, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. I'd stick with the nomination and move the disambiguation page to the basemame of "Clansman". Paintspot Infez (talk) 00:47, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support Xezbeth's idea. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk | contribs} 18:04, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but with modification. I personally think that Xezbeth's idea is the best - I think it's clear that the radio system is not the primary topic for the title Clansman, but I do think "clan member" is. So I support moving this to Clansman (military radio) and then changing the remaining redirect to go to Clan instead, and keeping Clansman (disambiguation) at its current title.--SkyGazer 512 ^{Oh no, what did I do this time?} 13:41, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

Another option would be to move the radio system and repoint the title "Clansman" redirect to clan. -- 65.94.42.168 (talk) 03:51, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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