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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Consensus was to move. Reliable sources use the term Torchwood: Children of Earth. SilkTork *^YES! 17:51, 5 March 2011 (UTC) SilkTork *^YES! 17:51, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Children of Earth → Torchwood: Children of Earth — Move over redirect. Like the upcoming Torchwood: Miracle Day, the third series was promoted (as visible in the title screen) as Torchwood: Children of Earth. --The Celestial City (talk) 18:43, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support I also think the current title should be a dab page, like Children of the earth. 64.229.101.183 (talk) 21:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- What is the other encyclopedia article which could bear the title "Children of Earth", with which this article could be confused? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 20:49, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - I would suggest redirecting Children of Earth to this article, rather than than creating a separate disambiguation page. The Celestial City (talk) 19:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Children of Earth is a serial name encompassing one story, while Miracle Day has an as of yet undetermined format (but will probably have individual episodes with seperate episode names). If anything, Torchwood: Miracle Day should be moved to Miracle Day (Torchwood). — Edokter (talk) — 00:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused by your argument. Torchwood: Children of Earth was the banner title of Torchwood's third series – see the BBC, Guardian, IMDb, Amazon, BBC America etc. In the same way, Torchwood: Miracle Day is the banner title for the fourth series. Whether the next series will have individual episode titles is not important, and I think the distinction you are drawing is false. What matters is what reliable, external sources call it. The Celestial City (talk) 17:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One core difference though is that Miracle Day will have named episodes, whereas Children of Earth was a straightforward serial.~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 16:37, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Torchwood: Children of Earth was promoted as a series, not a serial. Please see the sources I have provided. Whether or not Torchwood: Miracle Day follows the previous series in having "Day One" style episode titles or whether each episode has a more unique title would seem to have little bearing on the issue. The Celestial City (talk) 19:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't necessarily arguing for or against a move, even. I was just saying, they're not quite the same thing; the banner title in Miracle Day's case refers less to a "five-part story" and more to "ten quite serialized episodes". Children of Earth refers in different contexts to "the season three serial" as well as the banner title T:CoE. Clarification will be easier to make when MD has been airing for a little while, and then we'll see how Children of Earth is referred to in soures then and now. This point is only relevant insfoar as the CoE article treats this as an episode --- amalgamated reviews, the notability that only applies to the whole thing and not individual episodes, plot summary, as with any TV episode page. The MD is attempting to be a season page, like Smallville (season 10), so we shouldn't necessarily be blindly standardising everything until we have a better body of material.~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 11:19, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support. "Children of Earth" and similar have several meanings: see Children of the earth. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:15, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see this as particularely relevant. Since 'Children of Earth' has a distinct structure, disambiguating it is not appropriate. — Edokter (talk) — 12:48, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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