Talk:Charles Breyer

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Requested move 18 October 2018

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The result of the move request was: withdrawn by nominator. ~~~~

Charles R. Breyer → Charles Breyer – WP:COMMONNAME; most media outlets omit his middle initial, and "Charles Breyer" has over 3x more google results. Arbor to SJ (talk) 03:58, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:17, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Arbor to SJ: Charles Breyer is a disambig page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:18, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops. Then I withdraw that request, Anthony Appleyard. Arbor to SJ (talk) 07:19, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Closed, then. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:22, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 18 October 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Charles Breyer. (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 13:39, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Charles R. Breyer → Charles Breyer (judge) – Although the first nominator withdrew the initial discussion when it was pointed out that their proposed new title already exists as a disambiguation page, that actually wasn't the correct response to the situation. Our standard naming convention for people is that occupation is the first resort when disambiguation is necessary, not hunting down obscure and rarely used middle initials — so if his COMMONNAME in reliable sources is "Charles Breyer" rather than "Charles R. Breyer", then the page should still be moved to "Charles Breyer (judge)" rather than being left at "Charles R. Breyer". Bearcat (talk) 15:39, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:NATURAL. Occupation is definitely not the first resort when disambiguation is necessary. Policy is that natural disambiguation is preferred unless the natural name is obscure or made up. In this case, the middle initial is used in independent reliable sources. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7] - Station1 (talk) 05:16, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Charles Breyer. This is a WP:TWODAB situation, and the article about the judge gets about 47 times as many page views as the article about the soldier (837 per month versus 18 per month), so the judge appears to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. —BarrelProof (talk) 18:08, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Support that as an even better suggestion. (I hadn't bothered to check the dab page or pageviews; I should have.) Station1 (talk) 18:21, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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