Talk:Cal Madow

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Cleanup

This article currently reads like it might be copyvio. --Lendorien 15:27, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like this guy either blatantly copied it or really wants to protect these mountains. Given the references to studies from 1995 and his extensive record of uploading copyvio images, I'd say he copied it. Mathfan 01:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Location

The Cal Madow mountain range stretches across large swaths of Northern Somalia's Sanaag region. It ranges from land we today consider Somaliland (Erigavo) all the way across to eastern Sanaag close to Bosaso/Las Qoray which are both cities that is not part of Somaliland. Therefore I've changed the name of the location of Cal Madow mountain from Somaliland to Somalia which is far more appropriate. I've also added the state regional flag of Puntland because the eastern side of Cal Madow is controlled and supported by Puntland government. They provide roads and farming equipment to the populations that live in eastern Cal Madow as this Documentary created by Puntland highlights [1]. In either case the Cal Madow is located in northern Somalia [2] SethGoldman

I see that you are back. Only a small portion expands beyond the border of Somaliland [3]. By all means add Puntland/Somalia but please do not remove Somaliland. Kzl55 (talk) 10:45, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've been generous and left the Somaliland flag there, the border of Somaliland is disputed. Somaliland don't have troops in mountain ranges. Somalia has legal jurisdiction of this area. The map shows the location of Cal Madow as starting from Ceerigabo (which you and i agree as being Somaliland) and finishing in Las Qoray. Overwhelming majority of the Cal Madow Mountain located east of Ceerigabo as this map shows [4]. This obviously means cities east of Ceerigabo which don't consider themselves being Somaliland like Yubbe Badhan, Haylan, Las Qoray and Ceelaayo together make up the vast majority of land in the Cal Madow mountain range. The only argument you have here is that it's supposedly located within Somaliland's border, well the exact same argument can be made for the other side, since the Cal Madow mountains only extends a little beyond what Puntland claims to be its border. You have claimed the location of Cal Madow to be Somaliland without taking into account the other side of the argument which makes it one sided. The bottom line here is that the Cal Madow mountains is primarily located in an Area disputed between Somaliland and Puntland therefore one side do not have monopoly on the location, this is why i changed the location form Somaliland to Somalia since both Somaliland and Puntland are recognised as regions of Somalia, not only fair but much more appropriate. What do you think — Preceding unsigned comment added by SethGoldman (talk • contribs) 18:10, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

First of all you were blocked twice from editing Wikipedia due to your disruptive behaviour and vandalism, please stop editing the page. We have had this discussion several times before. Cal Madow is within the borders of Somaliland. The borders of Somaliland are international despite Somaliland's de facto status (as they separate the former British Somaliland and Somalia Italiana territories). Puntland is only claiming the land based on tribal affiliation, that means very little when talking about borders (the border with Ethiopia for instance has Somalis on either side). Furthermore, the Federal government of Somalia, which Puntland comes under, has allocated this region, Sanaag, to Somaliland [5] and not Puntland. This is also attested to by the former President of Somalia [6] clearly stating Puntland is only 2.5 regions (Bari, Nugaal and half of Mudug according to the Federal Government of Somalia) and their territory does not include Sool and Sanaag. This is according to the government which Puntland comes under. It even prompted the president of Puntland to protest [7] the statement from the president of Somalia. Now I agree with you that the mountain range extends beyond the Sanaag border and into Puntland proper. I have included this in the article and neutralised the language. Lets end it here. Kzl55 (talk) 20:56, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]