Talk:2017 Bulgarian parliamentary election

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Electoral system

I think there is outdated information about electoral system. Let us read the Electoral Code:

Article 246. (1) National Representatives shall be elected according to a proportional representation election system from candidate lists of the following registered in multi-member constituencies by: 1. parties and coalitions; 2. nomination committees. (2) When voting for a candidate list of a party or coalition, the voter may mark one preference for a candidate on the candidate list, thereby expressing the preference thereof regarding the ranking of the candidates on the candidate list for which the voter votes.

No words about two methods or any MPs elected using FPTP. I am not expert, but seems to me the system described in Electoral Code uses "open lists" not "closed". Check this issue, please. Olek Bokhan (talk) 22:18, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

I agree. I'm pretty sure the system is proportional, with a 4% threshold, just like it was back in 2014 and 2013. The First-past-the-post system was a one-time thing back in 2009. -- Kndimov (talk) 15:31, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

And what about open/closed lists? The voter may mark one preference for a candidate on the candidate list. Does it mean the lists are open? Olek Bokhan (talk) 21:04, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Whatever happened to Bulgaria Without Censorship?

Why is Bulgaria Without Censorship not mentioned here? The party won 15 seats in the last election. Did it disband, or did it join an alliance? Answers would be great. --1990'sguy (talk) 20:15, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

• The CEC refused to accept a namechange they proposed, so they pulled out of contesting the elections. See e.g. here. Number 57 21:16, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

@Number 57: Thank you for your response. But why then is Bulgaria Without Censorship not mentioned at all in this article? Shouldn't it be listed in the "results" section with its seats going from 15 to 0? --1990'sguy (talk) 03:08, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

It shouldn't be in the results table as it didn't compete in the elections, but the fact that they didn't run should be mentioned in the participating parties section. Number 57 07:24, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Results

@Number 57: Why have you changed percents? They were exactly as it is shown on the cite of CEC: http://results.cik.bg/pi2017/rezultati/index.html

The CEC failed to include independents or the "None of the above" option in their calculation to get to the percentages. They should be included when calculating the %s as they are valid votes. Number 57 15:21, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

@Number 57: Where does the number of independents votes (5,116) comes from? I do not see it in the source provided. Thanks. — Orgyn (talk) 18:15, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

@Orgyn: For some reason the CEC have not listed the independents on the main results page. However, if you download the full dataset from this page, you can see the sum for each party and the independent candidates (who were listed as #22 and #23 on ballot papers). Specifically, open the "votes_26.03.2017" file, and then sum the figures in column BO (independent candidates #22 = 4,821) and BR (independent candidates #23 = 295). This totals 5,116. You can match up all the other party totals with the ones on the main results page (e.g. column D = Movement for an Equal Public Model = 4,989). Cheers, Number 57 07:25, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry for joining this late into the debate, but are you sure? I'm pretty confident that the votes for "Independent" and "None of the above" are only taken into account for the voter turnout, not for calculating the percentages of the remaining parties (in this regard just like invalid votes). ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.115.198.252 (talk) 03:00, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Edit: Sorry, my bad, only "None of the above" are disregarded when calculating percentages; votes for independent candidates count just like for any of the other parties. 84.115.198.252 (talk) 03:23, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

None of the above should be included when calculating percentages as they are valid votes. Number 57 13:43, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Now I get it: "None of the above" are only ignored when calculating the 4%-threshold and the number of seats for parties above that threshold. I got confused because evidently parliament changed the law before the last elections. (source: https://www.capital.bg/politika_i_ikonomika/bulgaria/2017/03/26/2940762_kak_se_glasuva_na_parlamentarnite_izbori/). Sorry about that. 84.115.198.252 (talk) 16:38, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

No problem at all. Number 57 16:52, 25 November 2018 (UTC)