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Considering that both Bop-It and Bop-It Extreem are stubs, maybe all Bop-It related articles should be put together in one article.
- Yes, these two articles should merge under the Bop-it name. Other games (see Jenga) have their variations in the article about the original -Nv8200p talk 21:03, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
- I just Merged them. Should I add Top It to this page now? chess.and.cookies@gmail.com 22:21, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
- There is no Top It page. However, if anyone wrote about it, it would now be written here.Dr. B 05:03, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Would whoever placed the bad article title please explaine why it was put there, and what they beleive should be done to fix it? If there is no response by the 17th, I'm going to remove it.Dr. B 16:48, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- I did it because I felt that it didn't follow the guidlines to a good article because it doesn't have sources, but after reviewing other articles, I take back my shortsighted opinion, sorry to inconvenience you. ChessManXI 05:33, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Why would the limit be 250? 255 (1 byte) would be much more logical. 60.224.48.152 07:47, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I have a bop-it original with a limit of 100 and a bop-it extreme with a limit of 250. I can't confirm that the new ones are infinite, but should the older models with limits be mentioned?
Is this product fully discontinued? Bopit Blast seems to be the only item.. Hasbaro has removed the full line from its brand listing as well 71.163.165.64 00:04, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
New bop it download
Could someone please add the new version to the page???
http://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=firebox&action=product&pid=1858&showAllImages=0 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.43.48.132 (talk) 14:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Someone please tell me is Is Bop it Download coming to America any time soon?
Zing It
I once had a yo-yo toy that played a lot like bop it. You could either Zing It (fling it down, it would come up automatically), Loop It (do a loop-de-loop), or Bop It (hit the button on the Yo-Yo) I don't have it anymore, so I'm not sure if it is a clone or a product made by the same company. Anyone else remember it?TDS18 (talk) 17:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- There is another Hasbro toy called the Zing It. I think we should add it here perhaps. -Thibbs (talk) 22:00, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Top It
Another Parody of Bop It...it's like a Kendama. Anyone know about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.99.120.203 (talk) 22:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- Top It isn't a parody. It's a Parker Bros toy that is like a Bop-It-style command-driven kendama (like you said). I think based on its name it's probably trying to cash in on the popularity of Bop It, and I think it would be worth mentioning here. -Thibbs (talk) 21:36, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- Correction: Parker Bros is a subsidiary of Hasbro anyway. -Thibbs (talk) 21:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
I have now added these two items to the article and red-linked their names in case anyone wants to write articles on them. If there is no interest in them having their own articles (which would likely remain stubs anyway), then I suggest perhaps introducing them more prominently into this article and adding them to the table of musical tones. Thoughts? -Thibbs (talk) 22:12, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Potentially useful deleted information
I'll preserve this potentially useful material here in talk until someone makes an article on the Top It. I think this information is much too specific and unrelated for inclusion in this article, however since it may be of interest for the future, here it is:
Top It's vocal details
Like bop it, the voice used for the top it commands is the voice exactly the same as the original bop it. The voice are called out in different tones.
Version/Pitch | A♭ | A | A♯ | B♭ | B | C | C♯ | D♭ | D | D♯ | E♭ | E | F | F♯ | G♭ | G | G♯ |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Top It | Flop It! | Flip It! | Top iT! |
Cheers. -Thibbs (talk) 19:22, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- OK. Looks like the article has been created. I've moved it over. -Thibbs (talk) 20:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Bop It Comparison Table
You should make a bop it comparison table with all the seven bop it products and the different things they can do.
Bop It: Released: 1996 Maximum Score 100 Number of games: 3
Bop It Extreme: Released: 1998 Maximum Score: 250 number of games: 4
Bop It Extreme 2: Released: 2002, Maximum Score: 250, number of games: 6
Bop It (2002): Released 2002, Maximum score: 200, number of games: 3
Bratz Bop It: Released 2004, Maximum score: 200, number of games: 3
Bop It Blast: Released: 2005, Maximum score: 500, number of games: 9
Bop It Download: Released: 2007, maximum score: 1000, number of games: 3.
- Done. -Thibbs (talk) 18:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Another thing I was thinking is that it might be nice to add vocal details for Bop It (the 2002 re-release), Bratz Bop It, and Bop It Download. -Thibbs (talk) 18:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Don't bother about the vocal details in bop it 2002 and bop it download because: 1. The bop it 2002 is the same as the 1996 but better. 2. You can choose your own voice in download. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samlaptop85213 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Oh I wasn't planning on adding the material myself. I would have absolutely no idea where to find information on that subject besides conducting original research. I think it would be useful material to round out that table, though. -Thibbs (talk) 21:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Super Click It
Marks and Spencers have their own version of the bop it game called super click it. It has five commands. They are called Squish It, Twist It, Blast It, Zip It and Crack it. There are 4 game modes: 1 Player voice commands 1 Player sound commands 2 Player voice commands 2 Player sound commands
If you get 100 points, you get a fanfare, if you let less than 100, you get cartoon negative noises.
This would be great for the article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.8.228.208 (talk) 17:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm unable to find a single source (reliable or otherwise) that indicates this game exists. Is this a very recent or a future product? Are there any links we can add to the article to properly source this device? -Thibbs (talk) 19:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- OK, I've found it now. I guess the next question is whether it's a version of Bop It, a Hasbro spin-off, or a third-party clone. Are there any reliable sources available? -Thibbs (talk) 19:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- Seems like it's not part of the series after all. I've moved it into a section that should discuss all clone products such as this that are very similar and clearly influenced by the Bop It line. -Thibbs (talk) 20:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
It is a product that has been discontinued but can be find second hand on Ebay.--95.177.12.159 (talk) 19:32, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Here are the vocal details:
Squish it (G Sharp) Zip It (G) Blast It (F) Crack It (F) Twist It (G)
It sounds like minor to me!--95.177.12.159 (talk) 19:30, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if that really has to do with the Bop It toys (the subject of this article). I think that might be more appropriate for an article on the Click It alone. I also think the Click It section here has grown too detailed, so I'll add a quick tag. -Thibbs (talk) 22:09, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- I've restored the "too detailed" tag because the section we have on the Super Click It is now 2-3 times longer than most of the subsections on actual Bop It toys. It makes no sense for an article on the Bop It to spend that much time explaining the scoring scheme and individual verbal commands of a non-notable unrelated product. That would work much better under the article on the Click It alone. Please feel free to create one.-Thibbs (talk) 14:12, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
On a related note, I just removed the recently-added subsections on Brain Shift, Brain Warp, and Torx. These are not toys in the Bop It line and since this article is about the Bop It line, these toys do not belong. These could only fit in the "see also" section, but even then I don't think it would be very appropriate. Since the 1974 release of Touch Me, and the development of the extremely popular Simon, there have been some 30 odd years of similar Simon-says-based electronic game/toy releases that could be added to the list. In the interest of reducing clutter, I think it's easiest is we limit material on these topics to the games' specific articles just like the the Bop It material is limited to the Bop It article. Another idea could be to create an article on the topic of "Electronic Simon-says games" in general. -Thibbs (talk) 15:34, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Vocal details for Bop It Everyeone
Here are the vocal details for bop it everyone:
Bop It: E:
Twist It: G Sharp
Shout It: E
Pull It: F Sharp--92.14.250.58 (talk) 13:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
This is not an encyclopedic article-- it reads like a FAN PAGE-- please fix this
There are no reliable sources cited in this article whatsoever. The sources cited are completely UNACCEPTABLE, to-wit:
1. The Bop It! game's own rules and instructions 2. An individual's personal self-published geocities website with his original research on gameplay 3. The Zing It game's own rules and instructions 4 & 5. The BopIt Extreme game's own rules and instructions 6. A customer review on Amazon.com 7. The Bratz Bop It game's own rules and instructions 8. A short blurb on a sales website that is only six sentences long and appears to be derived from a press release by the manufacturer 9. A catalog listing page on a toy sales website 10. Another customer review on Amazon.com
If you want to save this article, PLEASE cite some RELIABLE SOURCES.
You may ask: "But OfficeGirl, WHY aren't the game's own rules and instructions acceptable as sources?" Here's my answer: those sources do not establish the notability of the subject, for one. They are also a very biased source, as they are produced to serve the marketing interests of the game company. Let's have some newspaper articles and magazine articles.
Also, MOST of the text of this article is not even supported by these ten unacceptable references. Though I agree that there SHOULD be an article on this classic toy, the article MUST NOT be filled with ORIGINAL RESEARCH by Wikipedia editors that just really, really like the toy. Your own personal knowledge cannot be included, even if you are right. You MUST go find a newspaper or magazine article or other resource that is generally recognized as a reliable source and CITE THAT RELIABLE SOURCE where it gives the information that you are trying to include in the article.
If enough time goes by without these issues being rectified, ALL the information that is NOT SUPPORTED by RELIABLE SOURCES can, and probably will, be DELETED from the article-- especially the ORIGINAL RESEARCH. It could be reduced to a STUB. Or it could even be nominated as an ARTICLE THAT SHOULD BE DELETED.
Have I got your attention?? GOOD!! Now FIX this article, PLEASE.
Thanks, guys. OfficeGirl (talk) 14:33, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- No!!!!!!!!!!!! WE WILL NOT FIX THE ARTICLE!--92.12.195.143 (talk) 15:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Please do not disturb the tags in place noting the problems with original research and the need for citations from reliable sources. They allow other editors to see that this article has a need and they may be able to fix the problems that you do not want to fix. Let's let the Wikipedia process work-- it has worked for years as a collaborative effort that finds good subjects and develops GOOD encyclopedic articles. Since you like the subject, you will like the article even MORE as Wikipedia editors with more experience at research also make contributions.OfficeGirl (talk) 16:08, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- No!!!!!!!!!!!! WE WILL NOT FIX THE ARTICLE!--92.12.195.143 (talk) 15:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) There are some definite problems with the sourcing at this article, however I believe that the problem has been over-exaggerated here. There are a few specific points I'd like to address specifically:
- While it is indeed correct that the instruction manuals that have been used as sources do not establish notability, notability is not a requisite precursor to reliability. The two are distinct concepts and it is a mistake to conflate them. There is no question that notability should be better established, but this requires the addition of new citations, not the removal of old ones.
- A number of self-published sources (above points 1, 3, 4, 5, and to an extent 8) have been identified as failling to meet WP:RS. This is incorrect. As it states in WP:RS, "Self-published sources ... may be used ... in limited circumstances." This is, of course, an misleadingly simplified quotation, however it's rather misleading to cite the summary of policy on Self-Published sources when WP:SELFPUB clearly states that "[s]elf-published or questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, especially in articles about themselves, without the requirement that they be published experts in the field" (emphasis supplied). Although this policy is more directly under WP:V, Verifiability is policy establishing the threshold for inclusion whereas WP:RS is merely a content guideline. Furthermore, I believe it's quite clear that ultimately, in the matter of the sources in question at this article, the rule that is the most apropos (and thus the rule that controls) is WP:SELFPUB. I think it is clear that, rather than harmful to the article, the sources identified in points 1, 3, 4, and 5 above are extremely helpful to the article. Point 8 may also be acceptable if it is indeed derived from a press release. I would strongly contest the removal of the self-published sources that have been identified.
- This article has been suffering recently from the mixed vandalism and good-faith original research that have been added by a persistent vandal and sockpuppet user, User:Samlaptop (e.g. see User:92.12.195.143 above). I have been largely unable to prevent his vandalism, and have taken to adding tags and templates to at least identify the problem even if I don't have the time to make bold reworks. In this regard let me extend my thanks for the much-needed page protection for this article. One thing that we should keep in mind, however, is that all users are encouraged to be bold in editing Wikipedia articles. So if anyone (other than banned users) sees areas where improvements could be made, please don't hold back. I am quite confident that all editors watching this article would greatly appreciate all improvements.
- Finally, I think it's important to remember that the use of All caps, italics, and bold font may come off as somewhat unduly aggressive and/or uncivil. Let us try to restrict our usage of emphasis to a few points of particular importance and then I think our comments might be better received. In any case, thanks for all of the recent observations. I agree with most of what has been said; this article has a long way yet to go. -Thibbs (talk) 13:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Noting possible violation of Three Revert Rule by possible blocked user on IP Address
The User at IP address 92.12.195.143 92.12.195.143 (talk) Removed the tag for original research HERE IN FIRST REVERSION http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bop_It&diff=prev&oldid=297374396 It was Restored by User Thibbs HERE http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bop_It&diff=next&oldid=297374396 The User at IP address 92.12.195.143 92.12.195.143 (talk) was the next person after Thibbs to edit and he removed the tags HERE IN SECOND REVERSION http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bop_It&diff=next&oldid=297389955 After a series of edits by the User at IP address 92.12.195.143 92.12.195.143 (talk) I came to the page and I tagged it for a few things including the same ORGINAL RESEARCH tag HERE http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bop_It&diff=next&oldid=297535151 The User at IP address 92.12.195.143 92.12.195.143 (talk) then promptly removed the tag again HERE IN THIRD REVERSION http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bop_It&diff=next&oldid=297554371 I reverted ONCE to replace the tag HERE and placed a general note on the talk page for the User at IP address 92.12.195.143 92.12.195.143 (talk) about not removing tags without proper reason http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bop_It&diff=prev&oldid=297563828 The User at IP address 92.12.195.143 92.12.195.143 (talk)then promptly removed the tag again HERE IN FOURTH REVERSION http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bop_It&diff=next&oldid=297563971
On the Talk page for The User at IP address 92.12.195.143 92.12.195.143 (talk) there is a tag noting that someone suspects the address is being used by an indefinitely blocked user by the name of Samlaptop85213 (talk) On the talk page for Samlaptop85213 the blocked user has requested to be unblocked and as an argument for his reinstatement he pleads that his edits on this Bop It article using an IP address should be considered in unblocking him.
I think this warrants Admin attention.OfficeGirl (talk) 16:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Note on recent BOLD rework
User:OfficeGirl has just completed a series of bold and important edits that removed from this article a great deal of information that was previously uncited. Although much of it was true information to begin with, it lacked proper citation and as such User:OfficeGirl was well within her rights to remove it. I have restored as much of the information as I thought was beneficial to the article and for which I could find sources, however much work lies ahead in order to properly establish notability here (see User:OfficeGirl's remarks above). If anyone else is interested in preserving any of the material that has been removed, adequate sources are a must. There are two last items whose re-inclusion I believe would greatly improve the article and if anyone can find any reliable information that discusses these products then I would ask that you please re-add them.
- Bop It Extreme Download - I have seen advertisements for this product in the past and I strongly believe that it exists. For reference, the edit in which mention of it was removed from the article was this one.
- Bop It Extreme 2 (pink variant) - I have seen photos of this product and I believe it would improve the article to mention this interesting re-release version. Does anyone know of any sources which describe this? The relevant edit removing this product is here.
Thanks in advance if anyone can find references for these and I think thanks are due User:OfficeGirl for cutting as much fluff as she did. Cheers, -Thibbs (talk) 21:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- I am SERIOUSLY impressed with the patent sourcing-- kudos to User:Thibbs!OfficeGirl (talk) 22:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Needs More Work to Demonstrate NOTABILITY
Try looking at WP:TOYS for ideas on what to look for-- get some WP:RS that show what is needed-- thanks!! OfficeGirl (talk) 15:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Actually I think it already does meet WP:N per WP:TOYS... but anyway it could never hurt to add more RSes. Just to get the ball rolling here, I'd suggest adding some or all of the following:
- Davidson, Dierdre. Toy Testers - They Report on What's Hot, What's Not. Ocala Star-Banner. Oct 19, 1997.
- Davidson, Dierdre. Young Toy Testers Say What's Hot. Akron Beacon Journal. Oct 19, 1997.
- Bop It Extreme wins the BATR Electronic Game of the Year Award in 2003.
- Bop It Extreme 2 wins the BATR Electronic Game of the Year 2005 Award in 2005.
- I'm certain there must be more out there online. This just took me a few minutes. Cheers, -Thibbs (talk) 18:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- WOO HOO! those look great! Every time I issue a challenge you step up to the plate and knock it out of the park! The articles that focus on the success of THIS TOY are the thing we really needed. OfficeGirl (talk) 22:32, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Patents and copyright????
Why the repeated references to patents and copyrights? Is anyone in the least bit interested to know that "In 1996, the instructions to a handheld voice game called the Bop It were copyrighted."? Matthew C. Clarke 01:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- I believe it is quite important to the article to give some indication of the chronology of the toys. Readers should be able to tell from dates that the "Bop it Extreme" came before the "Bratz Bop It."
- Unfortunately the only dates that could be found during the set of improvements made by User:OfficeGirl on June 22, 2009 were those on the instruction manuals. According to User:OfficeGirl, "the fact that an instruction book has a certain copyright date does not mean that the game was introduced at that time," so we have been unable to make claims regarding the games but we can only make claims regarding the instruction manuals. To quote User:OfficeGirl again, "products such as the Bop It game are not EVER the subject of a copyright-- only the written instructions are." To give readers a sense of the basic chronology of the series of toys, it seems the best we can do is this. If you can find any RSes that indicate when the games were released, that would probably be beneficial to the article. Good luck. -Thibbs (talk) 17:31, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- It still reads very, very poorly. I was like, someone has a some kind of intense patent/copyright OCD. There has got to be a better way to approach this. The copyright/patent date should appear as a reference, not be the entire core of the entry. If you have a reference, leave it at that, rather than describing the reference in the body. You could, for example, focus on the progression and evolution of the product without giving specific dates if none can be found. eg: BopIt Mk1 was followed up by Supercolider BopIt [insert reference here] which added the ability to transport back in time. If you don't know an exact date, you don't have to give it. Nobody's that bothered if you can't say it was released on the 17th Floor of the Burbank Macys on May 25th 1923 at 12:41pm - it was a pleasant 78 degrees and a light northwesterly wind. But you can prove that what you're saying is correct by referencing the copyright/patent info as.... a reference. Take a look at every other toy article for comparison, and see how they deal with this, as getting exact dates for, say, Transformers toy releases is not any easier. Yet they manage. Somehow. 118.209.244.221 (talk) 11:13, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- I agree there is room for improvement here. I think using other toy articles as analogy would be a great idea and I look forward to reviewing the bold improvements you've suggested. If you need any help from me please don't hesitate to ask. -Thibbs (talk) 15:07, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- It still reads very, very poorly. I was like, someone has a some kind of intense patent/copyright OCD. There has got to be a better way to approach this. The copyright/patent date should appear as a reference, not be the entire core of the entry. If you have a reference, leave it at that, rather than describing the reference in the body. You could, for example, focus on the progression and evolution of the product without giving specific dates if none can be found. eg: BopIt Mk1 was followed up by Supercolider BopIt [insert reference here] which added the ability to transport back in time. If you don't know an exact date, you don't have to give it. Nobody's that bothered if you can't say it was released on the 17th Floor of the Burbank Macys on May 25th 1923 at 12:41pm - it was a pleasant 78 degrees and a light northwesterly wind. But you can prove that what you're saying is correct by referencing the copyright/patent info as.... a reference. Take a look at every other toy article for comparison, and see how they deal with this, as getting exact dates for, say, Transformers toy releases is not any easier. Yet they manage. Somehow. 118.209.244.221 (talk) 11:13, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Re writing of the new Bop It
I just re-writen the section about the new Bop It. There is a new game mode called Part which I didn't write about, but it looks good. I like the new bop it and it's fun than all the others. What makes it fun is that Shout It!--92.8.56.240 (talk) 20:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Victory Celebrations
Bop It, Bop It Extreme, Bop It Blast, Bop It Download and the current bop it has a victory celebration to say that you have won the game.
Bop It Extreme has 2 dfifereent victory celebrations as I try to describe thhem in the bop it extreme section. I thought I would post something here so that Thibbs can re-wrod things and add info to the article.
In the new bop it, the victory celebration is a remake from Bop It Download using a random mix of beat bop sounds and ennding with three beat bop pull it sounds. In Bop It download, the victory celebration is as follows: The LED light goes from pull it to bop it, twist it to bop it, flick it to bop it and spin it to bop it and the three positive phrases are given.
The Victory celebration on the original bop it is very similar to the first victory celebration in the bop it extreme but it has a sort of 'That's it' melody that plays on old Nokia phones. I could make a recording of them if you like and you would be able to hear them and you can add info about them in the article. I think it's important to mention about the victory celebrations.--78.145.196.138 (talk) 17:36, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- The fact of these victory songs is potentially notable, but the details of what exactly they are is not. It's too fine a detail to be covered in this kind of an article as it almost certainly falls on the wrong side of WP:CRUFT. Furthermore, while the fact of the victory songs is verifiable, I can find no sources that back up the details. Since I believe you've already been community banned, I would get in trouble for editing on your behalf without proper sources. This is called meatpuppetry. Please don't ask me to make edits for you. Instead you should make edits to your own wiki as you said you would. Thanks. -Thibbs (talk) 19:22, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
New Bop It game for this year!
There is going to be a new Bop It game this year called Bop It Bounce. This site says it will be released March 2010.
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HG20163 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.160.136 (talk) 07:45, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Chinese R&D?
This Sun Chronicle article seems to suggest that Hasbro's R&D took place in Boston in 2009... Are there any sources suggesting that toy development takes place primarily in China? -Thibbs (talk) 22:11, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I know that they are made in China because it says on all the models on the side with screws and it says e.g on the new bop it "Coppyright 2008, made in China"
That's how I know those games are made in China.--92.8.40.236 (talk) 08:17, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
- That sounds like manufacture instead of development. It also sounds like borderline OR... I'll change the article to read "manufacture." -Thibbs (talk) 12:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
- I also shifted it down lower in the article. The subsection consists of only two sentences and anyway fact that a plastic toy was manufactured in China is not nearly notable enough to be the first subsection in the whole article. -Thibbs (talk) 12:35, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Continuous addition of trivia about non-Bop It games
Please add further details about the Zing It, Top It, Groove It, Torx, etc., etc. to the respective articles on those toys and not to this article. In the last few weeks these details that have been added to this article on these topics have been extremely trivial and completely unrelated to the topic of this article: Bop It. What the Groove It says after scoring 250 points, for example, has nothing whatsoever to do with the Bop It toys. -Thibbs (talk) 19:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Super-Click It
Thibbs and I have added a new section on a game called Super-Click It. Most of the info is there but we need some references about the game. Thanks.--92.8.136.174 (talk) 19:31, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
It says on my model that it's made by MGA Entertainment and it was copyrighted in 2000. It would be best if we find some references so that people who read the section known that Super Click-It is a real product. In fact, someone should make an article on it.--78.145.171.240 (talk) 16:16, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- If no references can be found then this portion of the article should be removed. Without references we presume the topic is non-notable and in any case it fails verifiability. Is there even any indication that this product is in any way related to the Bop It games? -Thibbs (talk) 11:54, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Every command has an 'it' next to it. It looks like it is related to Bop It but it is made by a different manufacturer. It's just a clone product. The reason why I put it there because I do have Super Click-It and I know excatly how it works. I just need some references so that other people know that the Super Click It is a real product.--78.150.49.200 (talk) 15:26, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- Please compare WP:TRUTH to WP:V. Just because you know something to be true doesn't mean that it belongs on Wikipedia. I agree we need sourcing for all tagged sections or they may be deleted. -Thibbs (talk) 15:43, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Well it's been over a month now and no sources have been added so I have removed this section. I think this is for the best considering that this toy has little if anything to do with the Bop It games which are the topic of this article. The Super Click It appears to be a competing product with only superficial similarities to the Bop It. Had there been a trade dress issue with this similarity or other notable recognition of the similarities then perhaps it would merit inclusion in the article, but as it stands this seems to be just another random addition of an audio game like the Brain Warp or the Brain Shift or any of the other games in Samlaptop's personal collection. Finally, I think this removal is a good thing as its addition was actually contrary to prior consensus. Back in April and May of 2009 it was determined in this discussion that we would not be adding the Super Click It to the article. I think the suggestion that was made at that time to create a separate standalone article on the Super Click It is a sound one.
Anyway with that idea in mind, I have transferred the subsection here so that it could be made into an article in its own right by any editors who are interested. -Thibbs (talk) 15:20, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Third party clone products
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Super Click-It
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The Super Click-It copyrighted in 2000{{Citation needed|date=May 2010}} by MGA Entertainment, is an audio game similar to Bop It. The Super Click-It is a 5-input toy with commands including "Squish It" (which requires players to press the yellow button), "Crack It" (which requires players to pull the handle back), "Zip It" (which requires players to move the red slider), "Twist It" (which requires players to twist the orange knob), and "Blast It" (which requires players to blow the green fan).{{Citation needed|date=May 2010}}
Like the Bop It, there are 2 different versions of play. One with voice, and the other with sounds. The game uses the command "Squish It" for an example on what game they have selected. There is also a 2-player mode for each setting. The game speed increases every 20 points and the maximum score is 100. For achieving the maximum score, a cartoon positive sound plays followed by a fanfare, and the game voice says "Way to go!" If the player makes a mistake, they receive a cartoon negative sound. Score reporting would be issued with a cypher. In the 2-player mode, the game voice says "Switch!" every 10 points to announce that it is time to pass the device to the next player. The cartoon positive sound does not play on the 2-player mode. Like the Bop It products, this game was manufactured in China as it says in fine print.{{Citation needed|date=May 2010}}
Bop It Article improving?
I managed to add more references about Bop It Download and Bop It Shout. This article looks better now! But I think it would be better if someone find the game intsructions for those two products so that people can see the instructions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.49.200 (talk) 18:06, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- It's nice to see the article actually being improved, Sam. I'm so used to seeing you vandalize it that it comes as a pleasant surprise to me even though we both know you've been banned and you shouldn't be editing at Wikipedia any more. Hopefully you continue to restrain yourself from vandalism. You're much more pleasant of an editor when you are behaving nicely. And I agree with you that instructions for the other Bop It games would improve the article a lot. -Thibbs (talk) 18:11, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
How would we upload them? Ah, I have good idea! We could convert the instructions to .pdf and upload it somewhere. Then we can reference it.--78.150.49.200 (talk) 18:21, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- That's true. I think the Wikimedia foundation hosts files if the proper copyrights have been secured. The instructions might be uploadable under a Fair Use rationale perhaps. If there's another place you're thinking of to host them, though, then that would probably work as well. Good thinking. -Thibbs (talk) 18:30, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Which Toy Fair?
I've noticed that someone keeps adding details about various Bop It products and citing only "the Toy Fair." The problem with this is that there are many toy fairs that occur every year. For example, there is:
- American International Toy Fair
- Nuremberg International Toy Fair
- Brazilian International Toy Fair
- Canadian Toy and Hobby Fair
- Australian Toy Hobby & Nursery Fair
- Chicago Toy Fair
There are many more that happen every year. When we just use the term "the Toy Fair" to describe the events at which Bop It games are shown, nobody knows what Toy Fair we're talking about. That's why I keep putting "{{which?}} tags" next to these phrases. It would help if we could be more specific. We should be adding references to these claims and also we should link the Toy Fair if there is an article on it (such as with the American or Nuremberg Int'l fairs.) It doesn't help to remove the "{{which?}} tag" unless readers can figure out which one it is. Please don't remove these tags until these ambiguities are resolved. -Thibbs (talk) 17:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Removal of Rock It (NuJam Guitar)
I am unable to find any reliable sources that call Hasbro's NuJam Guitar a "Rock It". A Google search for these two phrases uncovers only 2 places on the entire internet where this expression is used to describe the NuJam Guitar. The oldest use of this neologism occurs here where it looks as though a user named "bozmagic" coined the term in December 2008. The second use of this term can be found here where a user named "Saml" used it on September 21, 2010 (six days ago). Unfortunately both of these uses come from forums and forums almost never qualify as reliable sources. If there was some way to prove that "bozmagic" was an important gaming figure or that "Saml" was a Hasbro executive or something then perhaps these sources could be used however from my perspective it looks more like "bozmagic" was just some English fan who invented the term herself and "Saml" is Samlaptop who probably saw "bozmagic"'s post and got confused. If "Saml" really is Samlaptop then that's a terrible source for this claim because Samlaptop is actually a banned user here at Wikipedia and he's been vandalizing this page off and on for nearly 3 years. -Thibbs (talk) 12:07, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Ah OK I think I may have found the source of the confusion. In an Ebay auction I got a glimpse of the Nu Jam Guitar's old box art which has on it the printed words "eLeCTRONiC ROCK-IT GUiTaR". The box-art would be considered a reliable source for the claim that the guitar was described as "Rock-It," however I'm not certain that we can go so far as to say that the box art with this phrase is actually identifying the toy. After all the old version of the box also says "LeT'S GeT JaMMiN'!" and so an equal argument could be made that it was called a "JaMMiN'". The new version of the box art calls it "Nu Jam Guitar" (although it also says "From the Makers of Bop It"). Consulting the instruction manual that comes with the game we see that the company calls it the "Nu Jam Guitar" here as well. So I think we should probably go with that for now. -Thibbs (talk) 13:44, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Bop It XT
A new Bop It is coming this year with an extra shake it command. Anything new comes up later on this year, feel free to edit the section. The instructions may show up on Hasbero's website later on this year. That will give you clues that it's going to be avaliable soon!--92.5.207.133 (talk) 17:15, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- You are a banned user. Go away. -Thibbs (talk) 20:36, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Having problem referencing Bop it XT
Hey
I'm having trouble referencing Bop It. Hope it gets fixed soon.--2.96.84.31 (talk) 10:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Last I checked you were still indefinitely blocked from editing here, Sam. Have you got this problem straightened up with the admins or are you just violating the rules again? -Thibbs (talk) 14:34, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Well the admins don't realize that I can edit Wikipedia without vandalizing the pages and they keep me indefinitely blocked, but thanks Thibs for fixing the referencing.--86.177.44.21 (talk) 15:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- You'd better explain it to them before you get caught sockpuppeting, though. If they catch you sockpuppeting to avoid your block, you're likely to get blocked again and if you start to become a problem again then they might try to contact your parents again or IT people at your school. It might be safest to just stop editing until you convince the admins to give you another chance. -Thibbs (talk) 15:16, 22 January 2012 (UTC) (modified Thibbs (talk) 19:34, 22 January 2012 (UTC))
It's a shame that I can't e-mail any admin here on Wikipedia. What am I going to do?--86.177.44.21 (talk) 15:27, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- You should take that as a sign that you are not welcome here. You do not deserve any more second-chances. You keep proving that you are a vandal. I recommend at least one year away. DMacks (talk) 15:32, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
I do not vandalise Wikipedia anymore. I do not wipe out tons of pages and replace them with "Vandalism, I love vandalism." I manage to cite a reference for a new Bop It game. How could that be vandalism?--86.177.44.21 (talk) 15:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
That was fixing a word in an article.--86.177.44.21 (talk) 15:41, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Bop It Smash! at Toy Fair 2012
Hasbro has confirmed that the next Bop It game is going to be called Bop It! Smash. Also according to this source, Hasbro has solid 18.5 million Bop It units!http://www.purplepawn.com/2012/02/hasbro-toy-fair-preview-includes-new-kaijudo-tcg/--94.196.186.121 (talk) 16:23, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Voice actor of the modern Bop It games!
I just found out who is the voice actor of the modern Bop It games!
Here is the link! http://www.voiceoveruniverse.com/profile/BuddyRubino--94.197.78.233 (talk) 13:17, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Buddy Rubino additions
I'm not sure it adds much to the article to sprinkle the phrase "Buddy Rubino is the voice of Bop It" throughout the text. Subsequent to this brace of additions by the curiously-named User:BuddyRubino, the phrase appears in the article 6 times. The voice-actor, Buddy Rubino, only has a red link at this point and this indicates that he is non-notable. The references used to support this addition are primary sources. All of these things make me wary that the article may be turning into an advertising vehicle. Any thoughts? -Thibbs (talk) 14:23, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Bop It Beats
In 2013, Hasbro made Bop It Beats and Amazon.com was the first retail store to sell it in December 2013!
http://www.hasbro.com/en_GB/shop/details.cfm?R=6FBAFF91-5056-9047-F572-E7C8BE3A18B1:en_GB
Bop It Beats has five game modes and three levels of difficulty. There are also two high scores, one of classic and one for DJ. Please can someone at this Bop It to the 'current models' section.--86.150.86.11 (talk) 13:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Bop It R2D2 and Refreshed Version
Bop it, Bop It XT, Bop It Bounce, Bop It Smash and Bop Tetris and Bop iIt Beats are all discontinued. They should now be in the discontinued section.
The only models that are left now are Bop It Micro, Bop it R2D2 and a refreshed version of the game which is due in August this year.
http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/15/bop-it-2016-toy-fair/--109.157.150.179 (talk) 11:01, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
An update on this section about the new Bop It, it is now available at some big retailers. It has three game modes, each with a Pass It feature and the game modes are
Action - uses ten new moves and the classic moves and max out at 200.
Classic - uses just Bop It, Twist It and Pull It and max out at 100.
Beat Bop - just like the classic Beat Bop mode from the original series and maxes out at 100.
The ten moves are: whip it, drink it, selfie it, hammer it, answer it, cradle it, saw it, sing it, golf it, and comb it.
It also includes a new low battery feature and the unit will tell you when to change the batteries.--81.135.201.52 (talk) 09:20, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2017
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I want to help make thids page good BeeMove (talk) 13:54, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. JTP (talk • contribs) 13:59, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Bop it McDonald’s happy meal toy
I went to McDonald’s and I got a bop it as a happy meal toy. It was not electronic and you used a die to determine what you do. Hopefully someone can edit this page to show the bop it. Starstorm omega (talk) 23:08, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Bop it pens
I found out about bop it game pens. Their is the original bop it game pen and a bop it extreme game pen. Starstorm omega (talk) 23:18, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Never mind they already have on this page. Starstorm omega (talk) 23:19, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Two Different Revisions of the Original Bop It
There were two different versions of the original Bop It - one of them was the first edition and the other was the second edition. The most notable difference between the two versions are the size differences and the fact that the Solo Bop mode scores up to 200 in the second edition and the first edition only scores up to 100. Also, with the first edition, most units were high pitched resulting in slow pitch drops and as the pitch got lower the speaker volume decreases on low batteries. The second edition does this but the 2000 version comes with speaker glitches and causes the speaker to make a very horrible crackling sound that can scare people.
This is the instruction manual for the first edition. http://mannveille.com/tim/world-of-tim/images/bopit_instructions.gif It says about scoring "A score of 23 points sounds like this."
But in the second edition one, it says "A score of 123 points sounds like this."
So yeah there were two releases of the Original Bop It made.--2A00:23C4:84C6:1900:DD94:B4FF:5338:5713 (talk) 15:09, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Future Bop Its
I believe that Hasbro would make future bop its. I could think of several: another edition of the "classics" line up (TMNT), A bop it called Bop it Ultimate, a bop it called Bop It Extreme 2 Download. That should be all... Wait! What about a bop it that can be rechargeable (no battery removal, and you would have to just... plug it in). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bopit1998 (talk • contribs) 05:56, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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Add current version Bop It! Micro, a smaller version roughly the size of an adult palm. Yabasta11 (talk) 07:15, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- It would be helpful if you were to propose the exact prose as well as reliable sources supporting it. Melmann (talk) 08:11, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- I have added Bop It Micro to the current versions. Also, Hasbro have re-released the Micro with a bigger version that looks like the Bop It Shout and most people call it the Bop It Classic so I have added that to the list as well. They also got some new character themed versions based of the Bop It Micro coming this year so I mentioned those as well.--Sam 13:16, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- Marking this as answered per the above. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 03:42, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Click it and super Click it
Ok, so on the topic of the click it games line up, super click it was made in 2000, not 1999. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bopit1998 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
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Change "When the manufacturer access the hidden diagnostic test mode the English voice...." to "When the manufacturer accesses the hidden diagnostic test mode the English voice..." 24.150.209.15 (talk) 00:56, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- Done good spot, thank you. --Paul ❬talk❭ 11:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC)