Talk:Bolghar

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File:Bolgarplan.JPG

Plan of Bolghar: 1. Armenian Settlement
2. Western Gates
3. Britankino Lake
4. Cämiğ (Jamii) Mosque
5. Northern Mausoleum
6. Eastern Mausoleum
7. Red Chamber
8. Black Chamber
9. White Chamber
10. Khan's Bath
11. Khan's Burial-vault
12. Little Minaret
13. Group of Mausoleums
14. Southern Gates
15. Little Town
16. Eastern Gates
17. Saint Ğabdraxman's (Captain's) well
18. Rabiğa Lake
19. Ağa-Bazar

to be merged and modernized:

Historically, it is generally considered to have been the capital of the Volga Bulgaria when they were established in that part of Europe (5th to 15th century). Ruins of the old walls and towers still survive, as well as numerous kurgans or burial-mounds, with inscriptions, some in Arabic (1222-1341), others in Armenian (years 557, 984 and 986), and yet others in Turkic. Upon being opened these tombs were found to contain weapons, implements, utensils, and silver and copper coins, bearing inscriptions, some in ordinary Arabic, others in Kufic (a kind of epigraphic Arabic). These and other antiquities collected here (1722) are preserved in museums at Kazan, Moscow and St Petersburg. The ruins, which were practically discovered in the reign of Peter the Great, were visited and described by Pallas, Humboldt and others. The city of Bolgari was destroyed by the Mongols in 1238, and again by Tamerlane early in the following century, after which it served as the capital of the Khans (sovereign princes) of the Golden Horde of Mongols, and finally, in the second half of the 15th century it became a part of the principality of Kazan, and so eventually of Russia. The Arab geographer Ibn Haukal states that in his time, near the end of the 10th century, it was a place of 10,000 inhabitants.

Name

KUIBYSHEV? Surely there is some confusion here? The article claims that Bolghar was temporarily renamed "Kuibyshev" in the Soviet era - but Kuibyshev was Samara (and in fact the Wikipedia link from the word "Kuibyshev" takes you to the Wiki article on Samara).Reiner Torheit 23:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know at least 3 Kuybyshev in ex-USSR. The third was (is?) in Novosibirsk Oblast --Üñţïf̣ļëŗ (see also:ә? Ә!) 18:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did Bolghar gave name to Volga?

Bolghar-Volghar-Volga? Or the other way around: Volga(r)- a town (masc.) of river (fem.) Volga? Then Bulgarians would be "People from the town married to the Volga (Bolgha) river"

Surely no. For the Bolgars themselfs it was Itil!!! Russian name came from the Finnic root, what is proved. Moreover, in Rusian V never comes to B in native words.

--Üñţïf̣ļëŗ (see also:ә? Ә!) 18:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

If in English, Tatar, Bulgar, and Russian the word is spelled and pronounced Bolgar, what are the reasons for distorting spelling to Bolghar? Barefact (talk) 08:33, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]