Talk:Blockstream

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Speculation & Sources

This company is sometimes involved in an ongoing controversy relating to bitcoin's blocksize debate. Please be sure that the content added to this article complies with wikpedia rules relating to sources. Wikipedia:RS This wikipedia article is not a location to speculate about the subject's liklihood of success.Jtbobwaysf (talk) 10:44, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

controversy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockstream#Bitcoin_Core

This section should be expanded with information about the controversy. Benjamin (talk) 05:11, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, but we need more sources. Please feel free to add. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 11:04, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Company details

Headquarters Blockstream employee here. Blockstream headquarters is not San Francisco. We don't really have a headquarters due to the distributed nature of our team. But if somewhere needs to be stated then would recommend Victoria, BC, Canada. Backup source: ^[1]

Number of employees There are 50+ team members at Blockstream. See Linkedin link. Nwoodfine (talk) 16:26, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.linkedin.com/company/blockstream

Company

Article lists the following as "bitcoin developers" employed by Blockstream: Adam Back (President, Blockstream), Mark Friedenbach (Co-founder, Blockstream), Pieter Wuille (Bitcoin Core developer), Samson Mow (CSO), and Christopher Allen (co-author of IETF Transport Layer Security).

However, Adam Back and Samson Mow^[1] are not bitcoin developers (Back is a cryptographer^[2]), and Christopher Allen is no longer employed at Blockstream^[3].Nwoodfine (talk) 16:36, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Nwoodfine:, are you an employee of Blockstream? There is someone with a similar name at blockstream... If you are, you are required to disclose a WP:COI for this article and make edit requests here on this talk page. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 07:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Voellzj1: and Nwoodfine please note that there is an informal consensus in place that excludes social media and user generated content (as well as all other primary sources) as WP:RS on crytpocurrency sites. For this reason I removed the github source recently added. We also cannot use the linkedin sources proposed above by Woodfine. Thanks Jtbobwaysf (talk) 07:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Voellzj1: you asked on my talk page why i had removed the github source and i thought i would respond here so others might better see it. The reason is that we have a sourcing policy in place to require high quality independent mainstream WP:RS on cryptocurrency articles. At times we do point to a github repo for a software version, but that is about it. We wont use it to anchor any text that could be remotely considered as promotional. Such as Blockstream has 3 products, xzy. We would not use github for that. We could use github to say Liquid is on version 3.12 for example, IFF we had another good source that established that Liquid was notable and thus justified inclusion in the article in the first place. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 15:02, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

Conflict of Interest

I believe Voellzj1 and Nwoodfine to have some form of Conflict of Interest with the article in question. Both are Single Purpose Accounts with edits focused purely on crypto, with Voellzj1 going as far as to advertise some form of "internet reward" here[1] (he did this multiple times, just shy of the 3RR though.

If either account does not comment on this then I will likely ask a CheckUser to look into the matter. Thepenguin9 (talk) 21:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Thepenguin9: You are correct; my edits and interests primarily focus on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. You are more than welcome to verify the accuracy of the content and references I submit to note any errors I may have missed. Voellzj1 (talk) 21:28, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Have you looked at the notice posted on your talk page? It outlines some of the policies we have regarding crypto articles. There are also warnings regarding your edits to Lolli which you surely must have noticed before the third time. Thepenguin9 (talk) 21:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The other reverted edits are entirely orthogonal to the edits I've proposed to this page. In either case, please (1) suggest errors I have over looked and / or (2) suggest community guidelines that I have unknowingly violated. TYIA Voellzj1 (talk) 00:11, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have noticed the same and agree with OP. I removed some blog and primary sources today, and one forbes source that actually said it was paid content. Please stop adding this type of content or we will lock the article to autoconfirmed editors. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 08:26, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Thepenguin9: Nwoodfine revealed earlier on this talk above to be an employee (see above).

@217.235.147.86: FYI that Voellzj1 and Nwoodfine are not prohibited from editing this talk page, but they should probably refrain from editing the article (just to be safe). WP:COI editors please use the WP:COIREQ edit request tag on this talk page to request edits. You can also feel free to WP:PING me (sparingly please) as I watch a lot of articles. There is nothing inherently wrong with company staff participating in a company's article, it is normal. But we do request they follow the COI process.Jtbobwaysf (talk) 19:50, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.linkedin.com/company/blockstream

[2] ttps://www.linkedin.com/in/samson/

[3] ttps://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-back-043342/

[4] ttps://www.linkedin.com/in/christophera/

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