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Requested move 18 January 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved an non-controversial. (non-admin closure) -- Calidum 07:37, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Black Patriot (American Revolution) → Black Patriot – Appears to not need disambiguation at this time. Is some other meaning of "black patriot" that I'm not aware of? Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 04:06, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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"remained loyal"?

"A Black Patriot was an African American who remained loyal to the American side"... surely as a British colony the term "remained loyal" can only apply to "remaining loyal" to the original (British) government, not "joining" the revolutionary/independence side. The article should also comment on the status of slaves who fought for American independence and returned to or remained in slavery after independence. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:01, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the wording in the lead. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 06:18, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Sources?

As much as I like the concept of this article, I am somewhat hesitant, even in a stub, to have an entire article rely, for the most part, on one source/author. I think we need to show via additional sources that this phrase (Black Patriot, in caps) is in common use, at least among the historian community. I say this will all deference to the African-americans who served their country in the Revolution, but relying on a single source of questionable notability leaves us open to the appearance that this term is something coined for someone's personal theories and is not necessarily widely used. Since we are speaking in wiki's voice (i.e. "this term means", as opposed to, "some historians use this term to mean") I think we need to exercise caution. If this is a widely used term, surely there are other sources.12.11.127.253 (talk) 21:18, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, but The Colored Patriots of the American Revolution by William Cooper Nell was published in 1855 (check out See Also), with an introduction by Harriet Beecher Stowe. Except for this article's use of the modern preference for "black" rather than "colored", it is easy to see this term has a long history. Nell worked to publicize the role of Crispus Attucks and other African Americans in the revolution. Parkwells (talk) 22:30, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]