Talk:Black-shouldered kite/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:27, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

• I wouldn't link well known places (Australia, Africa etc)

delinked continents (chipping in to help) Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:44, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

• The lead doesn't summarise the article—no mention of breeding for example, which is a major section

Expanded Marj (talk) 20:18, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

• specifically to this species—yuk

had a go at tweaking that Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

• Taxonomy—although the relationship between the three Elanus sp are OK, it's not clear how this genus fits with others, such as mention of the subfamily.

Added info on subfamily though I don't have a reference other than the Wikipage. Marj (talk) 20:26, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Found ref and expanded. Marj (talk) 20:47, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

• Do we know Latham's original binomial for this sp?

Falco axillaris http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=view_file&file_id=MU9820182.pdf (just parking the info till I, or Casliber, has time)Marj (talk) 22:33, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Added Marj (talk) 07:32, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

• Description—any weight data?

Added 291 grams (10.26 oz) Marj (talk) 21:28, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

• hover 10 to 12 metres — needs conversion

done/added Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:20, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

• BirdLife International link doesn't go to Elanus axillaris page—which gives a population estimate

Fixed external link. Snowman (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Fine, but I wonder if it's better to use BirdLife which gives a population estimate? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Added link to population estimate page. Marj (talk) 21:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

• Global Raptor Information Network link doesn't go to species page

Added http://www.globalraptors.org/grin/SpeciesResults.asp?specID=8216 Marj (talk) 20:14, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

• Any known predators or parasites?

As an apex predator I don't think it will have any, not sure if has been investigated for the usual birdlice/nematodes etc. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:20, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

That's fine, just a standard ask Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

2 birds were found to be infected with the blood parasite Haemoproteus in one study. Blood parasites of birds from south-east Queensland Robert D. Adlard, Michael A. Peirce and Rose Lederer Emu 104(2) 191 - 196 Full text doi:10.1071/MU01017 Marj (talk) 20:24, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

• please check my edits

Checked, thanks. Marj (talk) 20:15, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

• No deadlinks or dabs, images OK

Great!

• ref 1 — doi is dead, ref 12 doesn't refer to this species

ISBN given, ref 12 provides more information on 'grappling' - interesting but not strictly necessary. Marj (talk) 07:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I've removed incorrect isbn, and added correct, working doi Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

• Why is BESgroup WP:RS? It appears to be user generated, also doesn't refer to this species

It's an arm of the The Nature Society (Singapore) the reference is to the fantasic images of the behaviour, common to the Elanus kites. It can be deleted if you don't think it adds to the info. Marj (talk) 07:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

No, that's OK Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

• you don't need publishers for journals, just books and web-only content

Perhaps not necessary, but sometimes useful to know the journal is the mouthpiece of a particular organisation, the template asks for the publisher. Marj (talk) 21:05, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

• Lead - "it is a specialist predator of rodents" - specialization not supported in main text. (Shyamal (talk))

"Main text says "Black-shouldered Kites live almost exclusively on mice, and have become a specialist predator of house mice in Australia," not sure how much more support is needed. Marj (talk) 20:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, seems fine. I found a journal article using the same terminology, although "specialist" suggests that they would starve in the absence of rodents. Shyamal (talk) 01:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

May be more comments later, but this should get you started Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:08, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Are we ready now? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:06, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I think so. Marj (talk) 18:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

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