Talk:Birding in New York City

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Did you know... that birders in New York City have recorded over 400 species?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Duonaut (talk) 00:02, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Zelda went cold turkey in 2014?~~ Source: Zelda, the Resident Turkey of Battery Park, Is Feared Dead [1]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hamim Tohari
- Comment: Rhododendrites wrote the article, I'm submitting it on his behalf. Technically, this existed in mainspace for a few minutes on 2022-06-11, but the newness check really should be relative to today's move back into mainspace [2]

~~If we go with ALT0, it might make sense to hold this for November 24th (Thanksgiving in the US, where Turkey is the traditional entree).~~ Created by Rhododendrites (talk). Nominated by RoySmith (talk) at 16:47, 1 October 2022 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1: ... that birders in New York City have recorded over 400 species? Source: https://www.nycaudubon.org/events-birding/birding-resources/birding-in-nyc "Over 400 species have been recorded here, including many rarities found by passionate and determined NYC birders."

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Great article, you might even go for GA status. Love the "hookiness" of ALT0. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 17:52, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith: given that both this and Cranksgiving are quirky hooks, I suggest you pick one to hold for Thanksgiving and one to go through the normal process? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:50, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't even realized until after the fact that I had suggested two for Thanksgiving day. My bad. Let's go with the other one for T-day. In fact, I've struck ALT0 on this one; as much as I'm proud of the off-the-wallness of it, I don't think it does the article justice. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:56, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, ALT1 is reviewed and approved too. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 22:06, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Notes for the future

The "history" section could use work, but it's unclear what it should include. I was tempted to add a bit more about the history of the environment of NYC in general, but it would need some good sources that connects it to birds. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 03:05, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In the species section, the line The quantity of pigeons, rats, and mallards attract raptors like hawks and a smaller number of owls. Between 1998-2002, a Parks Department initiative reintroduced eastern screech owls to Central Park after none had been seen since 1955. seems like of awkward there. The first could use adding other kinds of city-wide descriptions. The latter seems like it could start a new subsection about native species reintroductions (but I don't have good sources for that as yet). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 03:05, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Lead needs work (not enough of a summary). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 19:24, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Plume hunting image

@Adam Cuerden: Don't know if you're looking for new candidates and/or if this is of interest to you, but this image, which Jengod tracked down for the plume trade section, looks like a good candidate for restoration (colorful, obvious disturbing marks, etc.). It would also be a good addition at plume hunting FWIW. I'd consider attempting it but I suspect that middle crease is a bit more than I can handle even if I didn't already have a lot on my plate right now. Food for thought. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 19:15, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Principles of Ecology

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 29 August 2023 and 14 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): BubblyBublik, Moose1917, Branzino05 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Peanutbutters11, PrincessAnna27, Fevans9, Nayebean.

— Assignment last updated by Nayebean (talk) 18:36, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding to the article, Moose1917, however I had to remove what you added because it had no citations at all and some of it duplicated content already in the article. The information about noise pollution, mutualism, and the language about "interrupted landscapes" could all be good additions here, but it would need to be based on citations to reliable sources -- sources which directly connect the concepts to New York City in particular. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 13:08, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rhododenrites! Thank you for your comment and catching my mistake. I will include my primary sources when introducing these ideas. Moose1917 (talk) 16:31, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]