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Requested move 4 January 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus is that this is an article about a city in the United States, and therefore should follow the WP:USPLACE guideline for cities. (non-admin closure) sst 08:15, 12 January 2016 (UTC)



Beverly Hills, CaliforniaBeverly Hills – Longstanding recognition in popular culture as just "Beverly Hills" particularly with television shows, songs, and movies such as The Beverly Hillbillies, Beverly Hills, 90210, Beverly Hills Teens, The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and Beverly Hills Cop, Beverly Hills Ninja, Beverly Hills Chihuahua, Beverly Hills, 90210 (soundtrack), Beverly Hills Bordello, Beverly Hills (song), Down and Out in Beverly Hills and other related places and institutions such as Beverly Hills Oil Field, The Beverly Hills Courier, Beverly Hills Unified School District, The Peninsula Beverly Hills,Beverly Hills Post Office, The Beverly Hilton. Per WP:USPLACE: "Articles on populated places in the United States are typically titled [[Placename, State]] or [[Placename, Territory]]". Requested move for WP:CONSISTENCY in naming with associated articles. Edit: We have all of these articles with just "Beverly Hills" in their title, but the actual page of Beverly Hills on the wiki is somehow called "Beverly Hills, California." What gives?--Prisencolin (talk) 22:57, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

I disagree. I think it should stay here.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:30, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Any particular reason? We do this for Well known cities such as Los Angeles New York City, Boston, Chicago, etc. what makes this any different?--65.94.253.160 (talk) 03:37, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
The most famous song about New York was New York, New York, so I'm not sure the pop culture argument is totally valid. Also, Beverly Hills, New South Wales has about a quarter the population of the one in California. I think the state should be kept, but you make a good point. Magnolia677 (talk) 03:56, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
I think New York is a bad example of this because there's a legitimate argument that the City of New York could be at the title of just New York, also that particular song/movie title better fits the song lyrics. The city in NSW has a quarter of the population but I'm guessing not not even 1/100th the cultural impact of the US city.--Prisencolin (talk) 18:06, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Los Angeles, New York City, Boston, and Chicago fall under the so-called AP Stylebook exemption of WP:USPLACE: "Cities listed in the AP Stylebook as not requiring the state modifier in newspaper articles have their articles named City unless they are not the primary or only topic for that name". Beverly Hills does not fall under this. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:43, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
The five boroughs of New York, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens, The Bronx, and Staten Island, don't either, whereas anything written with the AP Stylebook in mind would suffixed with ", New York". My understanding is that this came from another concensus.--Prisencolin (talk) 22:12, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
The five boroughs aren't separately incorporated cities from New York. That might have something to do with it. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:47, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Also they're often referred simply by just their name, much like Beverly Hills is.--Prisencolin (talk) 23:04, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.