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Imbalanced regarding "animal welfare controversy"

Just wanted to raise this issue - in the mentioned section, there are a lot of quotes and sources reporting on the negative views and sides of the baseball bat incident, but almost nothing on the side of the argument in BM's defence. I'm not trying to instigate any disputes, just thought that the section needed a lot more balance. Kiefer (user) (talk) 14:47, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have added statements by the company to balance the section and have removed the tag. Just Chilling (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How many turkeys again?

It says 7 million a year in the introduction and 2 million just below that. A surpising result either way given that they taste like cardboard; and I have eaten cardboard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.145.82.124 (talk) 23:50, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copy from company website

The previous text was lifted straight from the company's web site, so obviously that had to go. The new text still replies a lot on information found on the web site, but is less POV/SPAM.

I believe the French operation may have ceased now, but I'm not sure. I'm also unhappy about the source for the 'Greenpeace pressure' link, but I couldn't find a more authoritative one in the time I had.

An audio clip of BM saying "They're Bootiful!" would be great. JanesDaddy 05:59, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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How old is BM?

Good question. I'll try to find out. In the mean time, here are a couple of links; the first to a blog [1] which talks about the fat content of his turkey products, and the second [2] which mentions the number of staff employed by the company. More anon. JanesDaddy 18:38, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Another 'fat content' Scotland link [3]

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Promotional material

I have removed promotional material that has been added by User:Law2179, particularly content referenced only against the company's website. There is a curious resemblance in both name and editing style with User:Matthewlaw1234. Bridgeplayer (talk) 20:09, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bad editing

This must stop. User:Law2179 is removing reliably sourced content that reflects badly on the company and keeps adding assertions about working practices that are not independently sourced. (The sources are generic sources that do not relate specifically to the company.) Examples include "Aside from this isolated incident it is widely known in the farming industry that Bernard Matthews work to the high welfare standards for rearing turkeys" and "All Bernard Matthews farms are open to unannounced inspections from DEFRA, independent welfare organisations and representatives of the major UK supermarket retailers". I have also removed unsourced tendentious statements such as "These standards also make consumers and retailers aware of the benefits of buying British. This has the advantage of ensuring that consumers have a choice of buying turkey of British provenance, as opposed to turkey products being imported from abroad where animal welfare guidelines and adherence to these may have limited effect.". Bridgeplayer (talk) 17:59, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"All Bernard Matthews farms are open to unannounced inspections from DEFRA, independent welfare organisations and representatives of the major UK supermarket retailers"

Nearly a year later and these generic statements are still there! They say nothing about Bernard Matthews since all food producers in the UK are *legally* susceptible to unannounced inspections by DEFRA - the government agency with food and farming responsibility. I suspect that in the case of most 'major UK supermarket retailers' there is a contract clause requiring the same right of inspection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.24.162 (talk) 09:22, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch. I have removed the statement. Bridgeplayer (talk) 15:37, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion

The introduction says "farming nearly 7 million turkeys each year"

while the first section says "farms nearly 2 million turkeys every year"

79.79.132.174 (talk) 18:00, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed move

It's been proposed that the article about the person should be moved from Bernard Matthews (person) to Bernard Matthews and the article about the company is moved to Bernard Matthews Farms. Please comment at Talk:Bernard_Matthews_(person). -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 19:12, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looking here, 'Farms' has been dropped from the logo and the company appears to be trading as Bernard Matthews Ltd. I propose we move the page to that title. Just Chilling (talk) 00:44, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support. It appears to have changed in the last few years. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 08:19, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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