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He was a writer and friend of the Uwe Timm, who worte a book about the friendship.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.7.100.54 (talk) 22:41, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"... had nothing to do with the shooting"

I had to remove the phrase again. It's not sourced and therefore not consistent with WP:SOURCE, a binding policy. And we never draw our own conclusions and insert them into the article. Kurras's affiliation with the East Germans is a fact. And this fact is mentioned in the article, there's no need for further explanations or rectifactions, as the article never claims that the Stasi had anything to do with the killing. But we also cannot exclude the opposite, so let's just say with what the media is reporting: Ohnesorg was shot by a West German policeman named Kurras, and Kurras was an informant of the East German Stasi. Period. --Catgut (talk) 15:43, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"...motive behind Kurras' act remains unclear." is a good alternative paraphrase. Alandeus (talk) 07:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This page should be ramped up a considerable amount. It's important to note that Ohnesorg's death was the clarion call for a huge left-wing movement across Germany. Ohnesorg's murder had massive implications for the society as a whole. This was a very substantial inflection point in German history. This defined an entire generation of Germans as much as Kent State defined a generation of Americans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.150.52 (talk) 21:36, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"...had nothing to do with the shooting." Ha! Adorable.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.150.52 (talk) 21:36, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Right and the killing was excecuted by a left wing communist spy, even though the easily fooled left wing had no clue and

remains in denial to this day because it makes them look like the dupes they are. The idea that someone has to keep removing the delusional expression, "but it had nothing to do with the shooting" tells you all you need to know about who really controls wikipedia. Folks, a communist was behind this from the jump. The communists were the ones that benefited. But, you want us to believe there was no connection? Nikita, please...99.185.56.93 (talk) 00:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hospital manipulation

Jan 23rd, 2012. German speakers please consult Spiegel for new information, including images and a doctor's admission that in the Moabit hospital manipulation occurred. 144.136.177.86 (talk) 03:03, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It also made media in Sweden[1] and they mention that the coroner tried to hide the bullet wound and several police officers tried to hide the evidence. // Liftarn (talk)

Done. Alandeus (talk) 15:21, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

POV

The sentence "protest turned violent after provocations by the Shah's agents and the police's overreacting" sounds POV to me. And was there any evidence of "the Shah's agents" being present? The only "agents" now known to have been present were Stasi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 19:41, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 June 2018

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The result of the move request was: page moved. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:33, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Benno Ohnesorg → Death of Benno Ohnesorg – The student's death is more notable than the student's life. It was his death and the reaction to his death that is the subject of contemporaneous news coverage, scholarly research, and historical analysis. There is precedent for this kind of article; all of the following articles are about a person's death where said person doesn't have their own stand alone article:

. . .I think you get the point. There are many, many more like the ones above. Thus, the article ought to be moved. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 21:43, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support jamacfarlane (talk) 04:14, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nomination. This is not a biographical entry for Benno Ohnesorg since this article's text is entirely about the circumstances surrounding the fatal shooting. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:14, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support Agree with all comments above. --Marbe166 (talk) 08:09, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 26 June 2020

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The result of the move request was: moved ~ Amkgp 💬 05:47, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Benno Ohnesorg → Shooting of Benno Ohnesorg – The usual convention for articles on Wikipedia that are about deaths by shooting is "Shooting of" (unless they are clearly murder and are called "Murder of"). This is consistent across many articles – see the consistent naming pattern of the large number of articles in Category:People shot dead by law enforcement officers in the United States, Category:People shot dead by law enforcement officers in Canada, Category:People shot dead by law enforcement officers in Australia, and similar categories for most other countries. This has been supported by recent consensus in several RM discussions, including the recent multi-article RMs at Talk:Shooting of Roni Levi, Talk:Shooting of Sammy Yatim , Talk:Shooting of Breonna Taylor, and Talk:Shooting of Atatiana Jefferson, and an older RM discussion at Talk:Shooting of Yoshihiro Hattori. This RM would apply the same rule in Category:People shot dead by law enforcement officers in Germany. —BarrelProof (talk) 01:22, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. I would have voted for the form "Shooting of..." two years ago, on June 24, 2018, above (Talk:Death of Benno Ohnesorg#Requested move 21 June 2018), if that option had been presented then. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 05:36, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support, as shooting is a more specific form of death and follows use elsewhere.--Bob not snob (talk) 07:00, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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