Talk:Bawean language

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Diponggo village

@Nyilvoskt: this is an important draft as a first step to make reliable info available about the Bawean variety of Madurese, so I want to help you to get the draft past review. The topic should definitely not be left to the hands of incompetent sockmasters as we have experienced in the past.

One thing you need to remove from the article (or at least trim to a minimum) is data about the Diponggo dialect. According to Eva Dwi Wijayanti, it is a variety of Javanese that has adopted some Madurese features because people in Diponggo are code-switching between Javanese and Madurese. I could fix it, but especially adjusting the table is a tedious task :)

As a rule, you should avoid as much as possible non-academic sources (especially stuff that looks user generated to me like the article from https://www.goodnewsfromindonesia.id) except for peripheral trivia. Core information (such as dialect differences) needs academic sources (WP:SCHOLARSHIP). The study by Eva Dwi Wijayanti is just an MA thesis, but its information appears solid and uncontroversial to me so I have no objections to using it here. As for the creole thing, you should restrict it to a sentence if at all. It is based on a conference paper, and the data in it hardly supports the bold claim of creolization. Here, WP:EXCEPTIONAL applies.

I'll dig into more details later. Austronesier (talk) 12:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]