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Merger from Battle of Merton

I found a number of references to the Battle of Marton in wikipedia entries (eg. Danelaw, Battle of Basing) that were not linked to a battle page. I created this stub and in referencing it discovered the Battle of Merton entry. The content of both needs to be merged as they refer to the same battle - I propose the merge from Merton to Marton - both may be equally valid.Metabaronic (talk) 11:41, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Clearly the same battle. Revcasy (talk) 12:23, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, go for it. Just make sure you get all the redirects together. Sadads (talk) 11:20, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Now merged. Metabaronic (talk) 20:13, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Further possible location

Another possible location for this Battle was Merdon Castle (originally an iron age hill fort) now part of the parish of Hursley, Winchester, Hampshire. This would make sense as this is very close to Winchester, which in turn is near to Basing now Basingstoke

This is cited as the location in British History Online - A History of the County of Hampshire: Volume 3

With footnote 6 in the above reference adding...

Milner in his Hist. of Winchester identifies it thus because of the evident nearness of the scene to Winchester, whereas Merton in Surrey, with which other writers (Lingard, Hist. of England, i, 164, &c.) have identified Merantune, would have been too far from the king's capital for his military forces to reach the scene of the murder before Cynheard could withdraw (Hist. of Winchester, 111). Woodward unhesitatingly accepted Milner's opinion (Hist. of Hants, i, 319). One other point that seems to sweep away many of the objections made by Marsh in his Mem. of the Parish of Hursley is that the spelling 'Merantune' is found in one version of the chronicle in the description of a battle which he himself gives as taking place at Merdon; Angl.-Sax. Chron. (Rolls Ser.), i, 140; Cott. Tib. A. iv. Zekizeki (talk) 16:55, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see no objection to adding the possible Hampshire site. The Victoria County History is always a good reference, even with such early volumes. Moonraker (talk) 19:10, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 07:23, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Marton → Battle of Meretun – The spelling Marton does not seem to be used any longer in academic sources. The only one I can find is over a century old, the 1918 Beaven article referenced in the Wiki article. The most common spelling is Meretun, used in the DNB article on Æthelred, Keynes and Lapidge's edition of Asser p. 243, Richard Abels' biography of Alfred the Great p. 135, Alfred Smyth's biography of Alfred p. 34, Barbara Yorke's Wessex in the Middle Ages p. 109 and Dorothy Whitelock's Anglo-Saxon Chronicle p. 47. The most common alternative is Merton, used by Ann Williams in the Biographical Dictionary of Dark Age Britain, p. 27 and Michael Swanton's Anglo-Saxon Chronicles p. 70. Dudley Miles (talk) 18:15, 27 November 2019 (UTC)—Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 10:23, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I remember noticing the same thing when researching a related article.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 00:11, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Thekiddio666 (talk) 06:00, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I'm curious as to why the spelling Meretum is used in the article and it would seem that someone copied the opening from this page. There is no certainty at all about Marton as the location and Dudley's sources carry considerable weight. No Great Shaker (talk) 06:25, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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