Talk:Battle of Hingston Down

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Hingston Down, Exeter

This article makes no mention of the other Hingston Down at Mortonhampstead, near Exeter. It has been suggested by authors such as Weatherhill that this was more likely to have been the location for the battle because the Viking/Cornish force was raiding into Wessex, and Egbert was reacting to this invasion. It really needs to be made clear that the location is disputed. Bodrugan (talk) 12:35, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think you would need a better source than Craig Weatherhill. He does not appear to have been an expert on early medieval history. Dudley Miles (talk) 16:46, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He was a historian and archaeologist, he wrote a lot about the early medieval archaeology of Cornwall and his book The Promontory People: An Early History of the Cornish (2018) is a good study of the period in Cornwall. The alternative suggestion for the location of the battle is taken seriously by Thomas J.T. Williams, Dr Bernard Deacon, Matthew Harffy, Guy Halsall and Martin Hackett to name a few. Bodrugan (talk) 10:18, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At the end of the day, the only evidence that we have to go upon for the location of the battle at Hengestesdun is the place name, and there are actually three Hengestesduns in the region, the one in Cornwall, the one in Devon, and another, mentioned by the Survey of English Place-Names, at Netherbury in Dorset, but it could easily have been another, unrecorded Hengestesdun somewhere else. Until there is actual archaeological evidence of a battle at any of these sites, we'll never know. Bodrugan (talk) 10:51, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that Weatherhill is a historian does not make him an expert on the period. Halsall is an expert and you could cite him for an edit giving the alternative location. Dudley Miles (talk) 11:04, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Survey of English Place-Names (English Place-Name Society) at Nottingham University identifies the AS Chronicle entry as pertaining to the Hingston Down near Mortonhampstead, Devon https://epns.nottingham.ac.uk/browse/id/53284f0bb47fc4097e000deb-Hingston+Down Bodrugan (talk) 17:20, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ingsdon

Not worth adding to the article without at least further research, but I thought I'd record this, spotted while I was expanding Denbury Hill:

Somewhat analogous to these variations of site and name is the late Dr. Curtis’s theory that the battle of Hengeston, or Hengistdune, generally believed to have taken place on Hingston Down, in Cornwall, was really fought at Ingsdon, two or three miles from the earthwork on Denbury Down, in the neighbourhood of Newton Abbot.

From: J. M. Martin (1897). "The Camelford of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle: Where was it?". Report & Transactions of the Devonshire Association. 29: 276.

Dr. Curtis isn't identified further in the paper. —Small jim 15:27, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]