Talk:Comeback (sports)

Material on baseball

The following was removed from the article pending the addition of sources:

A comeback can also occur in the course of a series. In MLB series play, the greatest comeback is widely considered to be 2004 American League Championship Series, wherein the Boston Red Sox defeated the New York Yankees in 7 games after trailing 3-0 in the series.

Also, the 2004 American League Championship Series article states:

The Red Sox became the third team in North American sports history to lose the first three games of a best-of-seven series and win the last four, joining the 1942 Toronto Maple Leafs and 1975 New York Islanders of the NHL. Boston's NHL franchise, the Bruins, would find themselves on the wrong side of the feat in 2010, losing to the Philadelphia Flyers in the Eastern Conference semifinals.

Cheers! bd2412 T 16:56, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

An experienced editor as yourself should know that Wikipedia can't be used as a source. Per WP:Circular....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 17:00, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Of course, I am not proposing to use Wikipedia as a source. I have not put the above in the article. I am merely pointing out that the proposition exists (unsourced) in the article, for future investigation. bd2412 T 17:16, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Comparison to digital fighting games

Regarding this edit: the use of the term "comeback" in the quoted source, in describing the action during digital fighting games, seems to be different: whereas this article is describing one side starting from a disadvantaged position and winning, the source is referring to a more dynamic phenomenon, where two opponents are trading the upper-hand over each other, without necessarily requiring the finality of a victory. Accordingly I'm not sure it is the best source for this article. isaacl (talk) 17:48, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

• In more complete context, the paragraph describes how a player achieving a perfect victory elicits less crowd enthusiasm than a player who mounts a comeback, so I don't think it is referring to merely trading the upper hand, but to one player actually rebounding from a substantial disadvantage. Technically, a competitor or a team can mount a comeback and still lose the contest (for example, in the second example noted, the authors hypothesize a team down 30-3 having a comeback that brings them to 30-27, a much narrower loss). bd2412 T 17:55, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
• It is also worth noting, I think, that most of the time, it is unlikely for the individual or team that falls substantially behind to actually win. An individual or team that initially takes a substantial advantage over a competitor usually does this because they are faster or stronger or otherwise superior in the competitive characteristics being measured. bd2412 T 18:20, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
  • The sentence doesn't refer to the player rebounding and winning, but just mounting a comeback, without implying an actual victory. The excitement generated is not in the disadvantaged player winning, but in the leading player facing a challenge rather than winning unopposed. Thus I do not believe the usage in the citation aligns with usage in this article, at least prior to these edits. With these recent changes, some additional copy-editing may be required to avoid assumptions that a comeback implies a comeback to victory. isaacl (talk) 03:05, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Proposed merge with List of basketball comebacks

I think based on the amount of info we have here and the sources available, this article is not really needed. Some of the more significant comebacks can go on the main articles if they are sourced, but there isn't any particular reason why there should be a separate article for this particular sport. Otherwise, we could have articles like List of baseball comebacks, List of ice hockey comebacks, List of association football comebacks, etc. ««« SOME GADGET GEEK »»» (talk) 21:21, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

• Sounds good to me. bd2412 T 02:52, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Done. bd2412 T 13:12, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Basketball section is missing a significant postseason comeback

In the 2002 Eastern Conference Finals, the Boston Celtics were down 26 at one point in the second half, 65-39, and outscored the nets 55-25 the remainder of the way to win, 94-90. At 74-53 after 3 quarters, it was at the time the largest fourth quarter comeback in NBA postseason history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:189:480:C400:6406:5C42:BEE9:F07 (talk) 04:51, 2 September 2020 (UTC)