Talk:Bangladesh–Iran relations
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[edit]This article is referenced. It has four references.Hajji Piruz 15:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Is there any reason why this article should not be Bangladesh-Iran relations, in common with Wikipedia policies on alphatisation?--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 17:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- Doesnt matter to me what its called. Its not that big a deal really.Hajji Piruz 03:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- Doesn't matter to me either, but an attempt to alphabetise the title was reverted recently and I wonder why.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 10:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- I didnt even notice. I dont know why and I dont really care, its nothing I would revert war over or argue over.Hajji Piruz 13:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
No mention of Iran and Bengal relationship during Middle Ages ??
[edit]This article doesnot mention several interesting facts during from 14th-19th century. Shah Abbas of Iran (Persia) send 40,000 Merchants in Bengal to enrich the trading relationship between Bengal and Safavid Dynasty. Many of these Merchants were Armenians, who initially reported to their Persian leaders, but later they developed their independent colony, eventually they founded their own area called Armanitola (city in Capital Dhaka founded by Iranian Armenians).
Several areas & cities of Bangladesh were founded by Turks & Persians who came from Iran during Middle Ages. Even the name of such cities have non-Bengali roots. This includes "Gulistan", "Shahbag", and many others. This article should mention these facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.228.117.93 (talk) 20:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Article seems biased and POV ??
[edit]I added some citations, but this article seems to be biased and POV. For example, this sentence: "Persian literature enormously influenced Bengali literature" is not entirely true. Only some of our great Poets were influenced by Farsi (Like Kazi Nazrul Islam).
And this sentence : "Due to the large immigration of Iranians, many Persian words entered the Bengali language and literature as well as into official documents and the idiom of court circles", its also not entirely true, I believe mostly "Islamic Terms" in Bengali has Farsi roots, example of such words are "Namaz", "Khoda" etc. And, Instead of using "Eid ul Azha", Bengalis say "Qurbani Eid", which is also same as in Farsi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.228.117.93 (talk) 14:04, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Important points worth adding/mentioning on the page
[edit]Source: http://www.banglapedia.org/HTtpdocs/HT/P_0148.HTM (scroll down to the section of "Development of Persian in Bengal" and below)
1. For over 600 years, Persian was the state language of Bengal. Persian was used as the language of poetry, administration, play etc. As late as mid 18th century till end of 19th century, five to six Persian dailies, including Sultanul Akhbar and Durbeen, were published regularly from Calcutta, suggesting that Persian was a popular language of the region.
2. During 13-14th century under Ghiyasuddin Azam Shah, the era is called 'the Golden Age' of Persian literature in Bengal. The flourishing of Persian in the region during this period is evident from a lyric the mystic poet, Hafiz Shirazi, wrote in response to Ghiyasuddin Azam Shah. Ghiyasuddin Azam Shah was writing a Persian ghazal, but was able to complete only the first hemistich: Saqi hadise sarv o gul o laleh mi ravad (O Saqi! The tale of the cypress, the rose and the tulip is going on). Failing to complete the poem, he wrote to Hafiz, inviting him to Bengal and requesting him to complete the lyric. The poet completed the poem, acknowledging the grandeur of the king's court and the literary qualities of the Persian poets of Bengal. Part of the poet's ghazal, which is included in his divan, reads:
Vin bahas ba salase ghasaleh mi ravad Shekar shekan shavand hamah totiane hind Zin qande parsi keh beh bangaleh mi ravad. (And with the three washers [cups of wine], this dispute is going on. All the parrots [poets] of Hindustan have become sugar shattering [excited] That this Persian candy [Persian ode], to Bengal is going [on].)
3. In 1882 AD, Nawab Abdul Lutif of Bengal, highlighting the social importance of the study of Arabic and Persian, expressed his comments to the Hunter Education Commission as follows: 'Unless a Muslim is a Persian and Arabic scholar, he cannot attain a respectable position in Muslim society, ie he will not be regarded as a scholar. And unless he has such a position, he can have no influence in the Muslim community'.
4. After the mid 19th century, the importance of Persian faded in Bengal, this was because the usage of Persian as official language was banned by Act no. XXIX of 1837 by the Council of India. The Act read as following:
"It is hereby enacted, that from the First Day of December 1837, it shall be lawful for the Governor General of India in Council, by an Order in Council, to dispense, either generally, or within such local limits as may to him seem meet, with any provision of any Regulation of the Bengal Code which enjoins the use of the Persian language in any Judicial proceeding, or in any proceeding relating to the Revenue and to prescribe the language and character to be used in such proceedings." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.228.121.25 (talk) 15:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
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