Talk:Baltic states/Baltic state

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Naming

Shouldn't this be named Baltic states as the article is on the Baltic States as a group. - SimonP 18:20, Oct 17, 2003 (UTC)

The "Baltic States" refers to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania as group, while a "Baltic state" could just as well mean any of the states or countries connected to the Baltic Sea, like Sweden, Germany, Poland, etc. Baltic countries tries to deal with this but there is still too much ambiguity over "Baltic state", which doesn't exist with the "Baltic States". -- Mic 18:32, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Baltic_States&action=history

Maveric maybe wished to avoid constructs like "Estonia is a [[Baltic States|Baltic State]]"?

--Ruhrjung 00:40, 2004 Jun 17 (UTC)

The current naming follows a convention common to many Wikipedia articles, and from that perspective the change was understandable. What I am trying to say is that following this convention here makes the name missleading. Besides the terminology should rather be used like this "Estonia is one of the [[Baltic States]]". -- Mic 09:32, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Collapse of the USSR?

I removed "Following the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991" from the following sentence, as the dates didn't add up. Someone with more knowledge could rephrase, perhaps; it did happen around the same time?

Following the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the three Baltic states declared their independence in 1989 and 1990 and their independence was recognized by the Soviet Union on September 6, 1991.

-- Blorg 12:36, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The September 6 date is correct . Their independence was indeed recognized 3-4 months before Soviet Union ceased to exist. "Following ..." was clearly incorrect. It may be viewed as a part of the collapse, but they gained independence earlier than everyone else. I would either leave it as it is after your change, or add "three months before Soviet Union ceased to exist" at the end. Andris 20:46, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)

Merge needed

The pages Baltic state and Baltic countries ought to be merged and listed under Baltic countries. "Baltic state" is a term used during Soviet era while the countries were occupied, while the correct present term is "countries". Jakro64 06:11, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The term that used to refer to these countries during the Soviet occupation was the Baltic Republics. Baltic countries is a term that generally refers to all countries that border the Baltic Sea. The correct term to refer to the three independent countries of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania would be the Baltic States. Regards, ivi

Please consider also the article on Baltic Republics. --Johan Magnus 07:18, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I agree with User:ivi. Baltic Republics shouldn't be merged with Baltic States, but Baltic countries should, this however should be done under "Baltic States" rather than Baltic countries (which is direct translation of Lithuanian term but unused in English). DeirYassin 14:56, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This page should be combined with the Baltic states page or vice versa. Same with the Spanish Wikipedia -- there are two redundant pages: Estados bálticos and Países bálticos. 18:50, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

I am going to undertake the merge shortly. --taestell 21:22, July 21, 2005 (UTC)