Talk:Bal du moulin de la Galette

More to say about this than price?

<venting>There's got to be more to say about this painting than its price. Why is it important in the history of art? Why is it considered so precious? What is the "story" of the painting?</venting>>>sparkit|TALK<< 00:47, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

We might start with its name. I apologize for being an uncultured lout, but I don't know enough French to translate toe "Bal au" part. ^L_Wizard @ 00:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

would a very old print of the painting have any value ?

Hi, I am not sure this is the place to ask this question, but the reference #1 p134 clearly states that Jeanne was a model and that Renoir convinced her mother to bring her in spite of her reluctance. Secondly the reference 5 clearly states that Jeanne is the woman leaning over Estelle. I would like to see if anyone else has researched this as well. Yes, Jeanne was having an affair, but that did not stop her from modeling for this painting. That should be corrected.

This is the google translation of reference 1:

Faced with this sad prospect, ten francs a day offered by Renoir were very tempting, if while the mother, acting in authority, decided that Jeanne would come in her company, rue Gortot, and that she herself would attend the sessions to watch her daughter. Both came, in fact, on the agreed day. The mother is upset watched over the extent of the garden, but Jeanne, silent, kept the air sulkiness of a child we just scolded and his angry face amused a lot Renoir. He made her sit on the lawn, set up an easel, and began to cover with colors a white canvas, while listening to the words of the mother, who told him the little details of her daily life. The brave woman was selling milk in the morning under a door in Montmartre, and its gain helped the household to live, but it was a tiring task, because you had to be there before daylight; however, she did not complain not. During this first day and the following, Jeanne remained always mute and sulky days. We had done, Lamy and I, only a short appearance on rue Gortot, fearing to scare the vigilant mother. i34 ON THE TERRACE (1881). Helio Leon. ? farcete J ^ dris Cl. Durand-Ruel. This one, completely reassured, and having besides enough to occupy itself in his household, soon stopped accompanying his daughter to Renoir. As soon as she came alone to rue Cortot, Jeanne changed her attitude. Her scowl of the early days gave way to the kind air that gave him was usual. After the first session, she was cheered. The after- noon, his cheerfulness had returned. The presence of Renoir's young friends, she knew, completed taming her. Lamy and Cordey had set up field easels in the garden and were working next to Renoir. We chatted, avoiding any subject or expression that could hurt the chaste ears of the girl. Lamy, while painting, hummed old romances sentimental. Encouraged by us, Jeanne was quick to mix her gossiping about us. She joked Lamy's old refrains and, without needing to be asked, she sang the latest novelties café-concerts. Renoir was delighted, but recommended the be more careful, so much did he fear that the capricious girl would not take shade of some joke, and took advantage of it not to come again.

Contrary to Renoir's fears, this was our great reserve which annoyed Jeanne. She was humiliated to be treated like a little girl wise, and that one believed her naive. Her vanity pushing her, one morning she decided to confide in Renoir, who had captured his confidence. he was pleasantly surprised to learn that despite the vigilance kindergarten, the candid Tair girl had a rich boy for lover and good family, with whom she often spent whole days, to Bougival or elsewhere, when you thought she was in her sewing workshop. Until then, the lovers had managed to arouse no suspicion in Jeanne's family. Despite constant surveillance, the mother suspected nothing. Focus52N (talk) 21:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Which is which?

There appears to be some confusion between Bal au moulin de la Galette, Montmartre and Au Moulin de la Galette. I gather the larger painting is the one in the Orsay, and smaller was sold at auction and is now in private ownership. Can someone find definitive confirmation of this and perhaps sort this out in the respective articles? -Twirling 18:15, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have been to Orsay, and I can say without doubt that the bigger one is at the museum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Focus52N (talk • contribs) 14:16, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Name

The correct title of this picture is Bal du moulin de la Galette; sources: Musée d'Orsay, French Wikipedia. I suggest to move the article and to modify its text and the text in all articles in "What links here", especially in Pierre-Auguste Renoir, accordingly. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:24, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup in "Dimensions"

I don't actually know how to fix the syntax, but the "dimensions" field is having trouble, displaying some error in red. This seemed like the best way to bring it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.196.221.41 (talk) 03:48, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for spotting this. It seems that the Template:Infobox artwork now must be provided with the parameters |height_inch= & |width_inch=; so done. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Title consensus

Some say Bal au moulin de la Galette and some say Bal du moulin de la Galette

Lets try to reach a consensus:

Bal au moulin de la Galette

Bal du moulin de la Galette
Support this title (du) - (even though I've changed my mind twice)...Modernist (talk) 23:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree: Bal du moulin de la Galette. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:58, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]