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Reviewer: Majun e Baqi (talk · contribs) 16:13, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

@Mahusha: Hi, I would like to review this for good article status

Comment article seems to be complete with sufficient media for good article

comment article is not showing copy right violationsMajun e Baqi (talk) 16:53, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

@Mahusha: The article is still containing some statements which are lacking citations, so article needs improvement before promotion to Good Article, Please let me know if you are interested to improve, thanksMajun e Baqi (talk) 05:38, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

There is only one statement that needs citation, I will find the citation for it but I think the article is suitable for good article criteria. Thankyou! Mahusha (talk) 06:10, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@Mahusha: It would be better if you will provide Inline citation to this

Baji Rao's dash on Delhi may be said to mark apogee of his career. It was executed with such daring and audacity that neither the Mughal generals nor the Mughal intelligence could comprehend or predict Bajirao's moves.Majun e Baqi (talk) 06:28, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok, there is citation for it I will provide. Mahusha (talk) 06:29, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Done provided the inline citation for the above statement. Mahusha (talk) 06:38, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@Mahusha: thanks, please provide Inline citation for it

Nanasaheb was appointed as Peshwa by Chhatrapati Shahu in 1740, succeeding his father. and this

The boy was eventually named Shamsher Bahadur and brought up as a Muslim.

Majun e Baqi (talk) 06:52, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Done, provided the citation. Mahusha (talk) 07:14, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@Mahusha: kindly provide the page number to the citation to above statement, so that statement can be verifiedMajun e Baqi (talk) 09:11, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Page number 27 Mahusha (talk) 09:36, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@Mahusha:

For which statement?

For Samsher Bahadur statement Mahusha (talk) 15:25, 12 July 2020 @Mahusha:

I have Verified that statement, thanks  Done

@Mahusha:

Please provide the other statements page number mentioned above which you citedMajun e Baqi (talk) 10:09, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Kindly provide an inline citations along with its page numberMajun e Baqi (talk) 10:22, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Baji Rao moved his base of operations from Saswad to Pune in 1728 and in the process laid the foundation for turning what was a kasba into a large city.[55] Bajirao also started construction of Shaniwar Wada on the right bank of the Mutha River. The construction was completed in 1730, ushering in the era of Peshwa control of the city.

Done, provided the citation Mahusha (talk) 10:55, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@Mahusha:

Comment The article is cited with the verifiable citation with no original researchMajun e Baqi (talk) 09:52, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

There is a bit neutrality issues, kindly be active on the discussion for further improvement, thanksMajun e Baqi (talk) 09:52, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

@Mahusha:

In his 20 year career, Bajirao never lost a single battle,

However, as a new Peshwa, he faced several challenges:[3]

His appointment as the Peshwa at a young age had evoked jealousy from senior officials like Naro Ram Mantri, Anant Ram Sumant and Shripatrao Pant Pratinidhi. This led Bajirao to promote as commanders young men like himself who were barely out of teens such as Malhar Rao Holkar, Ranoji Shinde and the Pawar brothers. Also, these men did not belong to families that held hereditary Deshmukhi rights under the Deccan Sultanates.[23]

His skill lie in manoeuvering of a huge cavalry with a great speed.[61]

Liberal in rewarding merit,

although it is giving information about the subject but likely to praising the subject, please write in more encyclopaedic form, kindly let me know if you're interested to improve, thanksMajun e Baqi (talk) 09:56, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

1) In his 20 year career, Bajirao never lost a single battle,

After studying the whole history of Baji Rao, we can see that he remain undefeated in his whole career. Yes that line is praising the subject, but I think that line is important in the article of warrior like Baji Rao who remain undefeated in his whole career. If you want citation for it, I can provide. A news paper article can be provided as a reference for it.

2) However, as a new Peshwa, he faced several challenges:[3]

His appointment as the Peshwa at a young age had evoked jealousy from senior officials like Naro Ram Mantri, Anant Ram Sumant and Shripatrao Pant Pratinidhi. This led Bajirao to promote as commanders young men like himself who were barely out of teens such as Malhar Rao Holkar, Ranoji Shinde and the Pawar brothers. Also, these men did not belong to families that held hereditary Deshmukhi rights under the Deccan Sultanates.[23]

This is truth. I can provide one more authentic reference for it.

3) His skill lie in manoeuvering of a huge cavalry with a great speed.[61]

This line shows the battle tactics of Baji Rao. I think it is important to write this line. It was one of the main battle tactics of Bajirao.

4)Liberal in rewarding merit,

This kind of praise lines are even found in the articles of other great warriors like Alexander the Great, Napoleon Bonaparte etc. But I am ready to take this line down, but I cant remove the line Cowardice and remissness were the two things he hated the most in his men, and when he detected the least sign of them he came down upon the offender with a very heavy hand, because this is supported by authentic reference. There is a contemporary letter of Bajirao in which he have scolded a man because he didn't done his work properly. This line is authenticated by a contemporary reference.

I have provided my points. But please reply me, I am happy to improve that lines and write it other ways. Mahusha (talk) 17:56, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

@Mahusha: It is better to be on safer side, kindly write the above mentioned statement into more formal toneMajun e Baqi (talk) 15:03, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok Mahusha (talk) 15:05, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

I will improve the lines Mahusha (talk) 15:08, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Mahusha, thanks for your cooperation towards the reviewMajun e Baqi (talk) 15:12, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, because I worked on this article for years, I want this article to get a good article status Mahusha (talk) 15:17, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Mahusha,

The nominator of this article was active in the review process and substantially improved the article according to good article criteria, so in its present form it is clearly passing all the criteria for good article so promoting it to Good Article, thanksMajun e Baqi (talk) 15:21, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Mahusha, hoping that you will solve the neutrality issues soon.

===Quick fail criteria===

• Not a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria: Y
• No copyright violations: None per copyvios.toolforge.org Y not considerable
• No cleanup banners: Y
• Stable: Y
• No previous GA review: Y

Well written with no original research

So promoting it to Good Article  Done Majun e Baqi (talk) 15:25, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Mahusha, kindly solve that minor neutrality issues as early as possible Majun e Baqi (talk) 15:41, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes I will Mahusha (talk) 15:46, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Mahusha, kindly inform me when you will finish it, thanksMajun e Baqi (talk) 15:53, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Please check, I have tried to solve the neutrality issues. Majun e Baqi Mahusha (talk) 12:33, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Mahusha, the article is seem to be written with neutral point of view now

So closing the caseMajun e Baqi (talk) 09:18, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Mahusha, one more suggestion, kindly use wikipedia guild of copy editor option before nominating it for featured article, It needs copy editing by profession experienced editor before nominationMajun e Baqi (talk) 10:32, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok Mahusha (talk) 11:33, 15 July 2020 (UTC)