Talk:Astłik

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The correct name is Astghik means star in armenian. The sun god is Artavazd take a look at http://www.tacentral.com/mythology.asp?story_no=2 Vartanm 22:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, Vartan's right, Astghik is the correct name. Move of this page would be best. - Fedayee 23:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I buy what you say, but she is also named "Astlik" in many sources (example). I will put it into the article also. --Roberth Edberg 07:42, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem with Astlik. Lets just make sure the article doesn't get deleted. Vartanm 09:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This sentence is unclear, and it should be rewritten. I don't know what it means, just that there are two differnet PIE roots, *ster for star, and *ausos for Aurora, etc. But the explanation is just confusing and clumsy. (gh corresponds to gh?):

The gh sound in astgh (and in Astghik) corresponds to gh rather than to r, 
hence, the Armenian word astgh seems to be linked with the Latin stella group rather that with the Semitic Istar.

惑乱分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * 00:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Astlik and Astghik are one and the same. In early Armenian, what is now pronounced -gh- was a dark-l sound. Think for example of ekeghetsi 'church', which corresponds to ecclesias, a word of Greek origin. Greek Kalak, Armenian Kaghak, etc. In the conventional transliteration of Classical Armenian, Astlik is used (with a diagonal bar on the l), but Astghik or Astghig would be the Modern Eastern and Modern Western transliterations respectively. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.148.191 (talk) 04:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Astghik could still be from Ishtar, if there was folk etymology involved. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.148.191 (talk) 04:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion

I updated/rewrote the text! Should be OK now. --Roberth Edberg 10:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology

This section offers no citation to the claim that Astghik isn't related to Ishtar. However, Dr. John Huehnergard - a fairly reputable source - in a chapter on Proto-Afroasiatic, specifically mentions Indoeuropean ~hster (star) as a cognate with Proto-Afroasiatic 'athtar (morning/evening star). So the evidence presented on this page, if correct, contradicts the conclusion given at the end of that information. Michael Sheflin (talk) 13:57, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Indian Princes

The article states "Her worship was derived from the two Indian princes who took refuge in the region of Armenia" but there is no source for this. While I know that there were supposedly Indian princes in Armenia the 2nd century BCE, but I've never seen any sources that suggest that they introduced Astghik. The word "astl" (star) is believed to have an Indo-European etymology, coming from "ster" and related to "astro," "astre," "star," etc. Additionally Astghik seems to have been worshipped long before the 2nd millennium BCE. So, in other words, I find it very unlikely that the cult of Astghik was introduced by the Indian princes. I think it's more likely that there is a connection with Semitic "Astarte" and "Ishtar" with "Astghik", which I know if controversial. It's generally accepted that Astghik is connected with Greek Aphrodite. I'm going to remove the Indian connection as this seems groundless.Preservedmoose (talk) 22:12, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]