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Name of the team

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Rawr (talk) 01:53, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Asahi Tigers (baseball team) → Asahi (baseball team) – The Asahi baseball team were only known by the name "Asahi Tigers" for one year (1921) when some players toured Japan and the remainder stayed behind as the Tigers. Rawr (talk) 06:08, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I figured my rename from "Asahi Tigers" to "Asahi (baseball team)" would go unopposed, but it appears not. So let's discuss it here instead of having an edit war. From what I can tell, the Asahi were only called the Tigers during the 1921 season. This was when a team comprising of "team of a dozen Asahi players and four players from other city league clubs." went on a tour of Japan. The team that remained was called the "Asahi Tigers". (see [1]). I have an excellent book about the Asahi, "Asahi: A Legend in Baseball" by Pat Adachi. Looking through it, I can only find two references to the "Tigers". One is a team photo titled "TIGERS 1921" with team members wearing the same uniforms as in the link above. Another is a newspaper article that states "Asahi Tigers whitewashed the Shellys aggregation 13 to 0...", dated June 8, 1921. Every other clipping refers to the team as "Asahi" or "Asahis", right through until the 40's. All the other photos I've seen have the players wearing uniforms with "Asahi" on the front, or just an "A". If there is proof that "This was last name team played under, having done so since the 1920s," I'd like to see it. Rawr (talk) 05:50, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This was last name team played under, having done so since the 1920s, AFAI can tell. Article name should reflect that (much like article Chicago Blackhawks uses most recent team name and not their original name, Chicago Black Hawks. Agent 86 (talk) 23:09, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you have any proof? Any references? Here's an entry that talks about their last season [2] "Asahis’ last season. They are ousted from the Burrard Cup race during the semi-finals, a surprise for a team that almost monopolised the cup in previous years." Rawr (talk) 02:56, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - I wouldn't consider that a reliable source under WP:V. That said, if you have a better source, then feel free to rename the article based upon that. Agent 86 (talk) 03:54, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - I have lots of sources. But I'll list this page on requested moves first to see if anyone else has objections to the move. Rawr (talk) 06:08, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I'd like to propose changing the name to "Vancouver Asahi" because there were a number of Asahi baseball teams, not just the one in Vancouver. There was also an Asahi team in Hawaii, San Jose,California, and Seattle, Washington. I also read that there had been one in Oakland, California early on. The way it reads here, only Vancouver had an Asahi baseball team. Clarification will help avoid future confusion. My apologies if my comments are in the wrong place. Ralph Pearce, San Jose, California 29 March 2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.232.170.73 (talk) 02:55, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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