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The result of the move request was: Speedy moved to Artificial seawater. No such user (talk) 12:55, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Artificial Seawater → Artificial seawater – The page topic, artificial seawater, is not a proper name, and not the name of some particular product. As per WP:LOWERCASE, the word "seawater" should be lower case. I'm making this a discussion, because an editor moved the page to all caps without discussion: [1], and I believe that it should be reverted. -- Tryptofish (talk) 23:12, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia page for Seawater is capitalized (upper case). There are many products that use Artificial Seawater using upper case. You can search the web and see many examples of this. Also, it presents the artificial seawater page topic/title and page much better. The presentation of the artificial seawater page looks unbalanced when you use lower case words in the page topic/title name. Just my 2 cents. Greg1wiki (talk) 23:49, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seawater is upper case because it's a one-word pagename. I'm sure that there are many commercial products that use capital letters, but they are not encyclopedia pages. The guiding policy is WP:LOWERCASE. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:10, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are many Wikipedia and encyclopedia pages that use upper case for their topic/title pages/sections. I was only submitting the edit because it presents the page so much better. Does everything have to be so strict on grammatical upper and lower case letters, can we not take presentation into account sometimes. Change it back, no problem, I was just trying to make the page look better. Greg1wiki (talk) 00:32, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I want to apologize for making the change to the topic without coming to the talk section first. I am a Wikipedia rookie in training. Going forward I will know to take major edits to the talk for consensus discussion. Thanks Greg1wiki (talk) 00:52, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Revert page move back to original title per nom. This is not a proper noun. -- ferret (talk) 23:50, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ferret is there a reason you are following me around on Wikipedia and try to revert any edits that I submit. You reverted all of my edits on the Odyssey Wikipedia page. This is kind of weird. There is no coincidence that you are on the artificial seawater page at the sametime that I am. I almost feel honored to have such a following. I guess I will have to report you. Greg1wiki (talk) 23:56, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Greg1wiki Hi there! Not specifically. I've also only reverted you twice, days ago. Whenever I use Twinkle to warn or block a user, it watchlists their talk page automatically for a period of a week. During that week, I noticed you received another warning from an editor, so I took a glance. Feel free to report me for using a completely normal process though. :) -- ferret (talk) 03:47, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was just joking, not going to report you. Thanks for the update. Greg1wiki (talk) 16:18, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ferret, by the way "Seawater" is a noun. Google it! Greg1wiki (talk) 00:54, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's a noun, but not a proper noun. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:55, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Seawater is a thing. Proper nouns refer to a specific person, place, or thing and are always capitalized. Greg1wiki (talk) 00:58, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's why it's a noun, but not a proper noun. Ferret said correctly that it is not a proper noun. We all agree that it's a noun. --Tryptofish (talk) 01:02, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is classified as a proper noun. I understand that. Here is the definition of a proper noun. Definition: A proper noun is the name for a "specific" place, person, or thing. Proper nouns are always capitalized in English. I am pretty sure that seawater is specific, distinct and unique. Greg1wiki (talk) 01:07, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And Seawater is pretty specific. Greg1wiki (talk) 01:00, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Simply being "a specific thing" does not make something a proper noun. --Tryptofish (talk) 01:05, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well that is how a proper noun is defined. Is there a different definition of a proper noun? I mean specific is specific. How can you change a definition of something. Greg1wiki (talk) 01:16, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to attempt to give an English grammar lesson here (but if you really want to ask, you can try WP:TEAHOUSE). Let's see whether other editors reach a WP:CONSENSUS about the proper way to capitalize or not capitalize it. --Tryptofish (talk) 01:20, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am so glad you do not want to give a English grammar lesson because I am late for dinner. Again, only made the change for the presentational purposes. In my opinion it just looks better. But, you can change it back I have no problems with that. Go for it! Greg1wiki (talk) 01:29, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 00:26, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy support as a revert of an undiscussed move and per MOS:LOWERCASE. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:33, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support not a proper noun.--70.24.248.87 (talk) 03:41, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above, w. sentence case. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:03, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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