Talk:2017 Armenian parliamentary election

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. No consensus supporting the move, plus consistency with other articles. (closed by a page mover) (non-admin closure). Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:23, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

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Armenian parliamentary election, 2017 → Armenian general election, 2017 – Because Armenia becomes parliamentary republic, and no longer holds presidental elections, in my opinion, will be true rename the article to "Armenian general election, 2017". --Vadgt (talk) 02:12, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose We use "parliamentary election" for numerous countries with a parliamentary system (e.g. Albanian parliamentary election, 2013, Bulgarian parliamentary election, 2014, Icelandic parliamentary election, 2013, Moldovan parliamentary election, 2014, Slovak parliamentary election, 2016). The main reason is that in countries with presidents, the term "general election" can also refer to an election where both the parliament and president is elected together, so sticking with "parliamentary election" is more concise. Number 57 09:03, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

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Gallop International

All,

I know polls were released by an organization attempting to portray itself as Gallup International, based in Washington D.C., when in fact the polls were released by Gallup International Association (Zurich, Switzerland) which is not affiliated with Gallup International. Would this be valid information to place under the "Conduct" section?

References: http://www.wingia.com/en/countries/ http://www.panorama.am/en/news/2017/03/06/Gallup-International-Association/1739483

TimeForTruth (talk) 10:13, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Heritage party

@User:Dododorodo, User:Number 57 and all users interested in Armenian politics:
What happened to the Heritage party, which gained 6.0% and 5.8% in the two previous elections? Is it somewhat related to the Way Out Alliance?
Additional question: which parties form the current government? (Cabinet of Armenia is out of date.)
Thanks and... cheers, --Checco (talk) 15:18, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

@User:Checco, Heritage party has nothing to do with Way Out Alliance. Heritage party formed ORO Alliance with former Armenian foreign minister Vartan Oskanian and former Defense minister Seyran Ohanyan. ORO Alliance's name is the abbreviation of these three leaders of the alliance (O for Ohanyan, R for Raffi (Heritage's leader), and O for Oskanian). ORO Alliance failed to meet the minimum threshold of 7% for alliances.
Republican party and ARF formed the current government.
Dododorodo (talk) 14:47, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

@User:Dododorodo: Many thanks for your clarifications!

So, after the election, the previous government was returned in office... right?

If I may, I have several more questions for you:

• did Republic take part to the 2012 election as part of an alliance?
• after the 2007 election, what happened to United Labour Party, National Unity, New Times, People's Party, Union Party and People's Party of Armenia?
• after the 2003 election, what happened to Justice?
• data on minor parties in the the national constituency for the 2003 election are missing: do you have those data?
• after the 1999 election, what happened to National Democratic Union and "Dignified Future"?
• after the 1995 election, what happened to "Shamiram"?
• what kind of party was Union for National Self-Determination?

Thank you in advance, --Checco (talk) 20:04, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

@User:Checco: You're welcome.
Yes, after the election where the rulling party was reelected, the government also was reappointed. However, in April 2018, when the President Serzh Sargsyan's term will be ended, Armenia will be fully transformed into a parliamentary country, the current government will again resign and a new government should be appointed by the National Assembly. After that presidential post will become ceremonial and the Prime Minister will become the most important figure in country's politics.
Republic party's leader Aram Sargsyan was on the electoral list of Armenian National Congress but after being elected he gave up his mandate. in 2017 election Republic was part of Way Out Alliance, alongside with Edmon Marukyan's Bright Armenia and Nikol Pashinyan's Civil Contract (Armenia)
United Labour Party's leader Gurgen Arsenyan was on the electoral list of Prosperous Armenia in 2012 election and was elected as a MP. Neither the party, nor Gurgen Arsenyan took part in 2017 election. National Unity party did not participated in elections after 2007 but it's leader Artashes Geghamyan is a MP who elected in both 2012 and 2017 from the electoral list of the Republican Party. I am not hundred percent sure but as I know New Times, People's Party, Union Party and their leaders did not participated in any election after 2007. People's Party of Armenia and it's leader Stepan Demirchyan supported Levon Ter-Petrosyan in 2008 presidential election. In 2012 election People's Party of Armenia participated in election as part of Armenian National Congress alliance. After, Armenian National Congress became a party and in 2017 as a party it formed an alliance with People's Party of Armenia. Quite complicated, yes?:) So, all of these parties were minor parties with no significant electoral power.
Sorry I don't know anything about Justice
No, I couldn't find any data about minor parties in the national constituency for the 2003 election even on the website of Central Electoral Commission but I guess these parties did not have candidates on constituencies. They could have participated in election only with electoral list on proportional party-list system.
In 2003 election, National Democratic Union's leader Vazgen Manukyan was part of Justice and was elected as a MP. After that it did not take part in parliamentary elections. However, Vazgen Manukyan participated in 2003 presidential election and 2008 presidential election. He resulted the 5th both times having around 1% of votes. I don't know anything about "Dignified Future"
"Shamiram" was a party which had only women on it's electoral list. It participated also in 1999 election failing to meet the threshold and winning less than 1% of votes. I don't know what happened to the party after that.
Union for National Self-Determination is a Pro-Western party without a significant electoral power. The leader, Paruyr Hayrikyan is a former Soviet dissident Since Armenia's independence from USSR, he is an Anti-Russian politician. He participated in 2013 presidential election winning around 1% of votes.
You are welcome, --Dododorodo (talk) 21:15, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

@User:Dododorodo: Many thanks for you thoughtful and detailed answer. Thank you also for all that you are doing to improve the articles on Armenian politics: I have a lot to learn from you. I will keep an eye on what you told me about 2018 and follow the events. --Checco (talk) 08:09, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

@User:Checco: You are most welcome. Feel free to ask further questions. I am trying to improve the articles on Armenian and Artsakhi politics. What concerns about 2018, media is telling that the possible candidates for the Prime Minister after 2018 can be the incumbent Prime Minister Karen Karapetyan, the President Serzh Sargsyan or Defense Minister Vigen Sargsyan (no connection with Serzh Sargsyan, the same last names is just a coincidence). The appointment of Serzh Sargsyan as PM and extending his term of country's leader can lead to opposition's mass protests as Serzh Sargsyan's rating is not so high. On the other hand, Karen Karapetyan is one of the most supported by the population politician from ruling party. He was one of the main factors of Republican Party's victory in 2017 election. In my personal opinion, even many of Republican Party's voters can join mass protests if after 2018 Serzh Sargsyan will be appointed as PM. Another possible candidate can be Vigen Sargsyan, Defense Minister of Armenia who was the Chief of Staff of the President Sargsyan for a long time. However, all these are just predictions, so we should wait and see what will happen in April 2018.Dododorodo (talk) 15:16, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

@User:Dododorodo: Wow, very interesting! It looks like that the rivalry between Karapetyan and Sargsyan – if it is rivarly – may lead toward a split within the Republican Party... what do you think about this? By the way, you are doing a great job in improving those pages: thank you so much! I will surely track your edits in order to learn more on Armenian and Artsakhi politics... --Checco (talk) 13:54, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

@User:Checco: Well, media sometimes claims that there is some kind of rivalry between them but also there is an opinion that they are doing well together and at the end they will compromise on PM's issue. Recently, Sargsyan visited the cabinet of Karapetyan and stated after that that Karapetyan has his and the party's full support and that he and the whole party value Karapetyan's contribution and efforts for the economy. Also, Karapetyan said several times that Sargsyan has his full respect support and that Sargsyan is the one who invited him to become a PM. In my opinion, the split within the Republican party is very unfavorable. Sargsyan is the party's leader for a long time and seems that the board members trust, like and support him (some of them claimed that Sargsyan is the person who will be the country's leader for years from now). I don't think Karapetyan can persuade them to switch their side and I do not think that Karapetyan will try to do such a thing and to confront Sargsyan (However, once there was an article in one of the newspapers, that Samvel Karapetyan (businessman, billionaire, no relative links to PM Karapetyan, close friend of his) is trying to use his connections to win some party members and MPs for Karen Karapetyan and to help him to remain in PM's office after 2018. However, I do not think that there is or will be a rivalry between Karapetyan and Sargsyan and at the end they can agree on the issue this way: Karapetyan can be reappointed as PM and become the country's most important political figure, since he has the population's approval. Sargsyan, after resignation of presidency can remain the leader and the president of the ruling Republican party and de facto have some power and maybe some influence on Karapetyan. But I do not exclude the possibility that Sargsyan will use his powers to become the PM and extend his leadership of the country. So, everything is complicated and will remain complicated until April 2018 and it is hard to fully believe any of the assumptions and predictions until that time.
Dododorodo (talk) 15:24, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Number of seats

Does anyone know why the total of seats went from 101 to 105? None of the situations explained in the article happened to justify it, as far as I can see. --Aréat (talk) 12:21, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

There is an "additional member" rule to ensure a stable majority. If a party gets between 50 and 54%, they get additional seats until they have 54%. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manougian (talk • contribs) 06:22, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

That wasn't triggered as a party already gathered (slightly) more than 54 % of seats : These four seats from 101 to 105 simply are the four minority seats.--Aréat (talk) 15:46, 13 May 2018 (UTC)