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On 12 July 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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Requested move 12 July 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. per WP:COMMONNAME (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 08:02, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anglophone Crisis → ? – The title of the article is quite outdated. This has long ceased to be just a "crisis", it has become a complete separatist war. The title needs to reflect the reality of the situation: Ambazonia War or Cameroonian Civil War are more appropriate names. Fontaine347 (talk) 15:44, 12 July 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:25, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and I have raised this previously for the exact same reasons. However, the proposal is likely to get scuttled by WP:COMMONNAME (a norm that has metamorphosed into a rigid Holy Law that triumphs WP:COMMONSENSE). Until Google search results for "Ambazonia War" has caught up with "Anglophone Crisis", we can probably forget about it. Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 05:20, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To call what is happening in Cameroon a "crisis" is an understatement: battles, military operations, massacres, etc. this is definitely a civil war. "Crisis" is something that hasn't turned into a war yet. --Fontaine347 (talk) 15:30, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Though I agree that "Anglophone Crisis" is not the greatest name, we should not forget that such naming has long precedents; for example, the "Malayan Emergency" and "Suez Crisis" are still called "emergency" and "crisis" despite being large-scale wars. Applodion (talk) 17:17, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Orphaned references in Anglophone Crisis

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Anglophone Crisis's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "theguardianjan122022":

From Timeline of the Anglophone Crisis (2022): The Guardian (12 January 2022). "Cameroonian senator and soldier killed in lawless anglophone region". The Guardian. Retrieved 12 January 2022.
From Operation Bamenda Clean: The Guardian (12 January 2022). "Cameroonian senator and soldier killed in lawless anglophone region". The Guardian. Retrieved 12 January 2022.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 14:06, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Split into several articles?

This article is already way too long, and I wonder if separate articles could replace the timeline section (they could be named Anglophone Crisis in 2017, 2018, 2019, and so on). Although these would largely overlap with Timeline of the Anglophone Crisis, I believe their existence would be juswtified; while these new articles would be articles, the timelines are mostly databases. Comments, anyone? Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 12:46, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted the mass transfer of content from the Ambazonia article to this one. As Mikrobølgeovn stated, this page is already too long, and should not suffer from further bloat; additionally, the recently moved content is largely concerned with the development of the idea of Ambazonia - which should be discussed in the Ambazonia article, and only be summarized in the insurgency article. Applodion (talk) 22:44, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: The Anthropology of Violence

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 January 2024 and 23 March 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Dtalla (article contribs). Peer reviewers: KCterm, Snazzysugarplum.

— Assignment last updated by RiverScullerPDX (talk) 16:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additions to the article

section on the human dimension of the conflict: human dimension of Anglophones and human dimension of Anglophones
Possible outcomes of the crisis (killing of all separatists/ethnic cleansing, crisis turning into a full on genocide, war between all parties involving outside countries supporters)
Possible solutions: federalization, separation of both parties (very unlikely), peaceful mediation via religious entities to meet the needs of both parties- here add in details the previous failed attempts of peacemaking and how to improve them.

Dtalla (talk) 14:28, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Emotionality" WP:SYNTH

Just removed a whole weird thicket of fairly obvious WP:SYNTH concerning "emotionality". Here is the difference. The sources linked don't seem to have anything specific to do with the Anglophone crisis whatsoever, but rather seem to be articles about emotions in general from a psychological standpoint which are employed as a springboard to accuse one side or the other of being more emotional. Tdmurlock (talk) 20:59, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dtalla PLEASE stop adding WP:SYNTH to this article. Tdmurlock (talk) 18:59, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]