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Wonderful, thanks so much Sage! Is there a way to track whether it has appeared on the page or not, in case I miss it while it's up there? (Ya7abibi24 (talk) 13:17, 3 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]
If you check the nomination here; someone will either approve it or bring up concerns about it within the next few days. After that, it will get removed from that page and added to the queue. Once that happens, there is a table that gives a rough idea of when it is likely to appear on the main page.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 23:00, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is really quite thorough and detailed and should be commended for its organization (good outline structure) and depth of research (reliable, scholarly sources). I thought it was high quality and overall great. Still, I offer the following suggestions for you to consider if you wish.

  • American vs. U.S.--my personal preference is to use the "United States" or "U.S." to describe the government and country's policies (in the sense that it is an actor) and to use American as an adjective when modifying nationality or something. If you do not want to change your use of the word American, I recommend adding a "re-direct" link so that people who search in Wikipedia for "U.S. democracy Middle East" will find your article. At present, your article will not come up in such a search.
  • I recommend moving the section listing U.S. institutions doing democracy work (section 4) to be before the section on the priorities of those organizations (section 3). That way you see who is doing the work, and then what is that they are doing.
  • I was curious when you mention DG indicators, as in what is used to assess the progress towards 'democratization' what are those indicators and how are they measured? Could you include this somehow?

Again, great job! I thought this was a very informative article. Kmac1986 (talk) 02:12, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Hi! I have never edited a Wikipedia page (and I'm in the midst of finals so I don't have time) but saw the notice about expanding from MENA region... I just read this article and think it could begin the work to expand, if someone is interested in working on that: https://americandiplomacy.web.unc.edu/2008/01/a-democracy-building-success-story/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.195.130.35 (talk) 20:59, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Excellent organization and sourcing and a clear layout of the material. The sections on history and critiques are particularly well done and lay out the issues at hand. Nice work. Radavis147 (talk) 15:36, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Overall Assessment

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I have to agree with the above comments in that this article is overall very well-written and well-organized. There is also a notable attempt made to maintain NPOV and a host of citations from a variety of sources that really lend credibility to this article. You might want to consider rewording the title, I apologize for not having any suggestions myself, because it does seem a bit long and wordy. I like the above suggestion to use U.S. in place of American. I noticed that you have a small section devoted to criticism of the Bush administration with regards to democratization, but notice that there is no such section for the Obama administration. In an effort to maintain NPOV, I would suggest adding in such a section. I also notice that you spend a large amount of space listing all of the NGOs, IGOs, and think-tanks that do work related to democratization, yet you only expand on the work of the U.S. government. This article would greatly benefit from a section that explains in greater detail the role that American civil society plays in democracy promotion. It would also be useful to lay out what the U.S. considers as criteria for measuring success/ failure and then assessing some of the examples you have given in the article. A minor detail, but I think this article could also benefit from the addition of a few more pictures. Overall a quality article. If you are feeling ambitious you should consider expanding the article to just general U.S. Democracy Promotion, as the United States has engaged in democratization not only in MENA, but all over the globe. IR393ldc211 (talk) 02:21, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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