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Errors....

The ACC was not built to replace Maple Leaf Gardens. It was built to be a home for the Toronto Raptors. It only became a hockey facility after MLSE bought the raptors. User:CorSter, 08/01/06

WWE

Why is it important to note WWE events?

The WWE section seems rather irrelevant, that info would seem to belong in a Randy Orton or SummerSlam article. I don't see much of a connection with the arena, if an attendance record or something was set by the event it would make more sense. I'm going to delete it, if anyone disagrees we can discuss it.--BoyoJonesJr 20:16, 21 May 2006 (UTC) this dude is making it sound like its only for basketball wheres the hockey picture?[reply]

We decided that WWE events would be removed from this article. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:57, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bringing this topic back up: Should we keep Sammy Maggio (talk · contribs)'s edit that added WWE stuff? It even has a reference to the ACC's website stating this. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 13:39, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like consensus changed. The WWE is staying for good. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:44, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

seating capacity

do we know what it is? it's not stated in the article right? Chensiyuan 16:03, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First Section

Near the end of the first section reads somewhat like an advertisement, mostly about the ACC's restaurant locations. AndrewMcinally (talk) 18:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added {{advert}} template to the section in question. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 20:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name

one sentence says "The arena is popularly known as "the ACC" or "the Hangar" (the latter nickname coming from its sponsorship by Canada's largest airline, Air Canada)." if I'm not mistaken this is only part of the reason for it's nickname, as in my opinion it looks a bit like a Hangar, and I believe that this might be part of the reason for it's nickname being "The Hangar". Charwinger21 (talk) 12:57, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indiscriminate list of musicians in the Concerts section

This section is a mess! I originally put in a note not to put an indiscriminate list of musicians in the Concerts section. Apparently, many users did not read it and added them in anyways. They also have no verification! I added the cleanup tag in that section as well. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 19:02, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was bold to remove it and placed tags on it. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:04, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They have been moved to a separate article: List of entertainment events at Air Canada Centre. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 23:54, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Developments

Need to add a picture of the crowd in Maple Leafs Square/Raptors Square. It's becoming a major reputation for the team in the playoffs. Maybe even create a new section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HighSchoolMusical (talk • contribs) 02:19, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline template

See here: Talk:Rogers Centre#Timeline template

It would be great to introduce it here as well (but with each entry having a reliable source). Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:21, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WWE: Yea or Nay?

@Sammy Maggio: and @Sportsfan 1234:

Should WWE be included in the Air Canada Centre article? Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:33, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed it got removed the other day and I took exception to it, but I didn't do anything. I vote Yea. Sammy Maggio 17:35, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't. These articles should left to legitimate regular use tenants and others like the WWE should be kept as "entertainment" and nothing more. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:11, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm thinking of a compromise solution: for temporary tenants such as WWE, concerts, political conventions, and video game competitions (and even state funerals), they can be put in a separate section away from the primary tenants (ice hockey, basketball, and lacrosse). Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:26, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Violation of Wikipedia Neutral Point of View Content Policy

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Comment 1: I believe there is a violation in the articles reference of the:"Air Canada Centre has, from its initial design to completion, revolutionized many concepts included in new arenas and stadiums built since then.", which does not comply with Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View Policy Wikipedia:Neutral point of view I believe there should be an external link to suggest that the Air Canada Centre truly played a revolutionized concept in the formation of new stadiums built since then.

Comment 2: In addition, I believe stating that: "Due to financial difficulties, the building ownership was returned to Canada Post in 1993. The Toronto Raptors purchased the building from Canada Post the next year." in the Air Canada Centre#History section deserves a citation from an outside source to verify additional information users may have on this change.--Gregm1996 (talk) 17:37, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Canterbury Tail: I would like to know what you think as well. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 15:53, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think Gregm1996 is quite correct from a reference perspective. I don't believe they're violations of the NPOV however. They're both fine statements but yes they are making claims that need references to back them up. Canterbury Tail talk 16:10, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Gregm1996: I've added a reference from nba.com for Raptors purchase of the building from Canada Post. Cheers. sikander (talk) 17:56, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That is excellent. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:34, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nickname

An IP has been attempting to add "commonly referred to by fans as The Scosh" and it has repeatedly been removed. as being unsourced. A TSN reporter invented the nickname on Twitter one year ago,^[1] but I can't find any reliable sources showing that this nickname is in general use. Most of what I have found are a few social media uses of the term. They are not reliable sources,and some of them would be more useful in disproving the use of the term. A sportswriter's blog nearly four months after the Twitter post: "The regular season starts Wednesday, at the SBA, or the Scosh, or the Scobank, or whatever we're calling this rink. I could use some help here. None of it particularly rolls of the tongue." is certainly not helpful, for example.^[2] If this nickname is in general use then we need solid, reliable sources before we can add it. Meters (talk) 05:30, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:TWITTER, the Scosh is definitely made-up. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 12:51, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: What do you think?

Yes, these should be removed until they are used in reliable sources. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 14:43, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No doubt about that. Anyone (even those with Verified Accounts, since there's very few requirements to verify) can say anything on Twitter, no matter how absurd or inflammatory (including some from certain politicians). Therefore, "Scosh" as a nickname is as encyclopedic as calling the baseball stadium next to the CN Tower "Rogers Dome." Even "The 6ix" as a nickname for Toronto underwent scrutiny for good reasons. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:19, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Twitter. Kristen Shilton. 30 June 2018 https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1013139464158400513?lang=en. Retrieved 4 June 2019. Then it's the Scosh, which I've decided is what I shall call ScotiaBank Arena. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
^ McGran, Kevin (28 September 2018). "Leafs offence putting on a show". Toronto Star. Retrieved 4 June 2019.

A few errors about Canada Post...

I don't have any sources other than the fact I was in the last postal unit to move out of the facility in 1989, but there are some factual errors about Canada Post here.

Canada Post decided to close the facility and move operations to an alternate more modern circa 1970s letter processing faculty on nearby Eastern Avenue. A structure with easy access to highways was designed specifically for transport truck bulk delivery of mail. By 1989, all of the old building's work was transferred here.

Not true. This seems to come from a historical page on the site, but has factual errors. The main function of the building - being a sortation plant - was taken over by the South Central Letter Processing Plant on Eastern Avenue when that facility opened in, I think, 1976. But Station "A" letter carriers were out of the building for years afterwards, as was a parcel depot on the ground level. Station "A" carriers covered a lot of downtown, the FSAs of M5B, M5C, M5E, M5G, M5H and M5J, basically University Avenue to Sherbourne, from College/Carlton Streets south. The carriers were moved out circa 1988, along with the parcel unit. The carriers went to several other facilities in downtown Toronto. Parcels either to SCLPP or Gateway in Mississauga, I believe. In 1987, Station "A" boxes, which had been on Front Street at Yonge, was moved into the facility, and was the last to move out, near the end of 1989 to its current location at 25 The Esplanade.

As I said, I am speaking as I worked at "A" boxes till the building closed, otherwise I have no published source. Canada Jack (talk) 02:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but we use verifiability, not truth. If there's a reliable source that backs up what you said, we will use it. For now, we stick to what is currently in the article. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:59, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Twitter. Kristen Shilton. 30 June 2018 https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1013139464158400513?lang=en. Retrieved 4 June 2019. Then it's the Scosh, which I've decided is what I shall call ScotiaBank Arena. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

[2] McGran, Kevin (28 September 2018). "Leafs offence putting on a show". Toronto Star. Retrieved 4 June 2019.

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