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Can anyone link to the German article Ahmed Harkan, please?

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Harkan 2003:E8:5F15:9251:ACAD:F25B:CB27:C245 (talk) 17:55, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

already done successfully - thanks ! 2003:E8:5F15:9251:ACAD:F25B:CB27:C245 (talk) 17:57, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please STOP deleting this important article in English, German, Arab and Russian

Concerning WP-users Avicenno (Jordan) and Томасина Tomasina. But no, the article meets all relevance criteria. To me it seems wrong to delete the Russian (or: the German, Englisch, Arab) version of the article (Ахмад Хусейн Харкан — Википедия), arab (أحمد حرقان - ويكيبيديا). Hamed Abdel-Samad, a German-Egyptian political scientist and author, five years ago as 2019, mentioned the Egypt atheist and human rights activist, and in this year 2019 Humanists International (once: The International Humanist and Ethical Union (IHEU)) spoke for Ahmed Harkan. And the petition on change org - An Egyptian ex-Muslim on Hunger Strike, "9,185 have signed. Next goal: 10,000", to the United Nations. The two Wikipedia-users Avicenno ("I am a Wikipedia education program team leader at Hashemite University in Jordan") and Томасина Tomasina should, please, stop their attempts to delete the important Wikipedia-article. 2003:E8:5F15:9269:D451:9B45:7A70:87D3 (talk) 20:56, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree - "Please STOP deleting this important article in English, German, Arab and Russian" thanks, Ahmed Harkan is well-known, and is notable for the Wikipedia. 193.175.48.159 (talk) 12:20, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Harkan has ended his hunger strike

Ahmed Harkan was on a hunger strike for 57 days, from October 30th till December 26th.

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· Ahmed Harkan أحمد حرقان · · 26.12.2019 ·

مررنا بوقت عصيب للغاية. بالنسبة لي عندما قررت الإضراب لم أعمل حساب هذه اللحظات،ظننت أنهم سيلقوا القبض علي وسأكمل مشوار الإضراب هناك، قلت لهم مرارا خذوني من هنا...

أمي انهارت تماما في النهاية، كنت أعلم أني انتظر الموت أو السماح لي بالسفر أما هي فكانت تموت في كل يوم ألف مرة. قررت الرحيل والمكوث في مكان بعيد عنها لكنها تعلقت بي ولم تفلتني .. موقف أكبر مني مليون مرة. لم أتحمل أن تتألم أمي التي لا كلمات تصف نقاءها . قسوت كثيرا عليك يا أعظم وأحن قلب أعرفه ..

علقت الإضراب عن الطعام فقط من أجلها.

بعد ما يقرب من شهرين من العذاب علي وعلى من يحبونني جميعاً لم أتصور أبداً أن هذه ستكون النهاية.

لا أعلم شيئا عن المتضامنين الثلاثة الذين تم إيقافهم في 16 ديسمبر .. أنتظر التعافي من الآثار الرهيبة لتجربة الإضراب النفسية والبدنية.

خسرت جولة في كفاحي عن حقي ولكنها أول جولة فقط وسأنتصر في نهاية المطاف.

للنصر ثمن، وللظلم ثمن.

https://www.facebook.com/AHHarqan/posts/3037128349642020?__xts__[0]=68.ARDp6YT2URMijcHhYtFsPTSYeebI6oMvP8Ofzw9D-jwO2IqRy3pyzsEVMZWfJOtsROY2r6qGHG91P1ZD5ZJBJCAL0P2CC7C-JZ0IBFvbJmmMnn2lvEmK-Ba1wBrLQhjxWVPCUr_1nEx_3hFw560BzYxdtBwyBrj7zKqNHewvwwwkWNMy6IUcbjLMDAp0wbE8TKTngsPCRe9Hty4OBCXSPtJvgAav0p-w0SICWzdH0MTIeYRb1bXfVgGSSucopnNMXzOFOgLNgf1qJu-ucso4ipzqssN2aGWhBlALZGIe_fQATf0Z7-wMnRCAKJIldo-XR3OF_y_tEZ_1jCkzteGEEg&__tn__=-R 2003:E8:5F15:9285:F9D2:84E5:B582:A144 (talk) 00:45, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Better sources needed

I added a source for his reconversion to Islam, which was unsourced, and another for his inability to leave Egypt and hunger strike, but we need better sources.

Also, content sourced to MEMRI was recently removed as that is claimed to be unreliable/propaganda: [1]. Fences&Windows 11:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello there, I have direct information from the public figure that this article is about, as he contacted me for the following edits:

1 - Replacing the "Return to Islam" section's title with "Pretending Returning to Islam". 2 - Replacing the content of the above section to the following:

   "Harkan said that when he decided to brake the hunger strike he had started to study a backup plan. After 57 days he went to the very south of Egypt 
    Abo-Sunbul and Naser lake which is a border between Egypt and Sudan; there where he had a look at the Roadway that he might go through; which he 
    eventually did cross it after a whole year of studying the situation , One of the essential steps that he made sure to be done before applying his 
    plan is to announce that he have got back to Islam.[12] The point behind this announcement was to avoid benign recognized by the terrorists while he is 
    walking to Tunisia.[13]
    Harkan made it to Tunisia all the way from Egypt walking literally on his feet passing by Sudan, Chad, Libya through the desert.[13] After a while 
    there in Tunisia Harkan continued his surviving journey by crossing the Mediterranean to Italy.[14]".

3 - The sources to the information above (specifically for [12], [13] and [14]) as provided by the public figure are bellow:

   [12] نضال الغرسي - https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=272580651016440&ref=watch_permalink
   [13] ومضة - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZynnGlk9-Is
   [14] تعالوا نتحدث Anas971 (talk) 18:52, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to make. neither facebook nor youtube are reliable sources due to their nature as a site that allows for self-published content. additionally, WP:SPS notes that Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer. ◎ | melecie | t 07:06, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]