Talk:A State of Trance 2008

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Notability

Articles in Wikipedia need to be on notable topics. How can an album that hasn't even been released yet be notable? See WP:CRYSTAL --Crusio (talk) 15:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:MUSIC: "Articles and information about albums with confirmed release dates in the near future must be confirmed by reliable sources and should use the {{future-album}} tag. Until there is sufficient reliably sourced information about a future album, early information about it should be in the artist's article only, not in a separate article about the unreleased album." And: "All articles on albums or songs must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The label's website is hardly an independent source. --Crusio (talk) 15:31, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The album is released now, but there are still no independent reliable sources to establish notability. Just because it exists, it doesn't merit an article and predicting future developments is something Wikipedia doesn't do. But hey, since every obscure footballer who ever entered the field for a split second seems to need an article, why not this album? I'm not going to pursue this at AfD and removing this page from my watchlist. --Crusio (talk) 22:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]