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On 23 July 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from 22nd Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) to 22nd Panzer Division. The result of the discussion was moved.

Mice eating tanks myth?

Oddly enough German staff maps show that the 22nd was moved from its position behind the Italians ~50 miles to behind the Serafimovich bridgehead in mid-November, so its tanks could not have been unused for all that long on the 19th.

Here is the official map showing the division on its road march on the 10th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.114.153 (talk) 20:35, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mice myth

Unfortunately, it appears that, in this instance at least, Mitcham is uncritically repeating an apocryphal story from "Paul Carell's" books, in this case rather easily disproven, as noted above. As some may not know, "Paul Carell" was actually Paul Karl Schmidt, a nazi propagandist working for nazi Germany's Foreign Office during WW II. As such, his pseudonymous post-war writings suffer from the same self-serving apologist agenda as many other post-war writings by German nazis and military figures, and none of their material should ever be taken at face value. Were one or two AFVs disabled because poor maintenance protocols led to rodents chewing on wires? Possibly. But anything more is sheer fiction on the part of a writer invested in finding -any- cause for nazi losses in WW II other than the actual facts of German incompetence in logistics, and an unrealistic and contrafactual hubris regarding their opponents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:4202:2EE0:6D4C:31A9:442C:31A (talk) 08:22, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:4th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —The Sky Bot 03:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]