Talk:22nd Air Landing Division

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Year and date of creation

The text states that the division was created in 1935, and the date listed for the first commander is 15 October 1935, but the infobox states twice that the creation date was 1 October 1934. This needs reconciliation. Coyets (talk) 15:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article is also included in the Category:Military units and formations established in 1934 and should be included in the Category:1934 establishments in Germany unless it was created in 1935. Coyets (talk) 15:58, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Air Borne?

We need to pick a title, Infantry or Airlanding, not make up some weird amalgam of the two.--172.190.48.153 (talk) 07:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(Air Borne)???

While air borne (sic) is -perhaps- accurate in a technical sort of way, the German nomenclature "Luftlande" means air landing, NOT airborne. These were glider-borne troops, not paratroops. Please change article title to reflect reality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.11.27.241 (talk) 00:47, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Moved per request. Andrew Gray (talk) 21:48, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Role/Transport

The article at the moment states that the primary transport of the 22nd Air Landing Division was Gliders. However, per a number of sources, including the Osprey Battle Orders 004 German Airborne Divisions 1940-1941, the term "Luftlande" in German does not refer to Gliders specifically. The Gliderborne elements of the 7th Flieger Division, who were trained Fallscirmjagers, were known as Luftlande-Sturm (Air Landing, Assault), but as far as the 22nd goes, these were ordinary infantrymen, not equipped or trained for glider operations. Air Landing in this context is more analogous with modern Air Mobile concepts, perhaps performed slightly more aggressively. The infantry of the 22nd were essentially as a motorised division, except rather than trucks they had Ju52s, the intention being to land on occupied airstrips, disembark and attack. It's rather like infantry in landing craft on D-Day. They were regular infantry, landing on beaches, not trained marines. The artillery, and all the train elements of the 22nd were entirely conventional and horse-drawn in fact.

Therefore, should the article be updated to reflect that the 22nd was a strictly Air Landing Division, not Glider Division? The Fallscirmjager operated DFS 230 Gliders, not the 22nd Luftlande, as far as all the information I can find indicates. The primary transport of the 22nd, when it was an actual Air Landing Division in 1940 and 1941, was the Junkers Ju52. SquireJames (talk) 21:35, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]