Talk:January 6 United States Capitol attack
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What?
Was this written by the DNC, MSNBC? Who? Not up to standards of neutrality. Who reviews that? I wouldn't know where to start other than all over again. Venqax (talk) 17:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You could list it at the neutral point of view noticeboard. There's nothing wrong with making small improvements yourself, either—correcting a few sentences at a time, or adding inline cleanup tags such as {{POV statement}}. Remember to keep your edits constructive and factual, of course. — gabldotink [ talk | contribs | global account ] 18:23, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Venqax: Where you start is by identifying specific portions of the article you believe are non-neutral. You not liking the facts of what happened on that day doesn't make it non-neutral. Wikipedia does not give fringe theories or conspiracies "equal weight" to the actual facts. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 18:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Conservapedia is → thataway. I'm sure they'll have an article more to the liking of those who view actual neutrality as left-wing bias. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:51, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- this isn't conservapedia Nohorizonss (talk) 14:45, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
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- I suggest you read the policy on neutrality. If this article reads like a CNN analysis, that is the standard of neutrality. If you disagree with the policy, then you need to get it changed on the policy pages, because editors are supposed to follow it on every page. TFD (talk) 03:04, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Viability of citing YouTube content by credible sources like the New York Times.
I want to edit certain sections about events from that 6th of January using a New York Times documentary called 'Day of Rage: How Trump Supporters Took the U.S. Capitol' (which actually has its own Wikipedia page), which is available on YouTube, however I'm unsure if I should use it as a citation, because even though this was made by a reputable source, there is in my opinion a negative connotation in Wikipedia about using YouTube videos as sources.
Here's the documentary that I'm referring to: [1] GabMen20 (talk) 21:13, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- The negative connotation comes from people trying to cite any random YouTube video, especially because many videos on YouTube are copyright violations that weren't posted on YouTube by the copyright owner.
- This video, however, is published by the NYT on their own YouTube channel, so it isn't a copyright violation, and you can cite it, preferably with time indexing so people can jump to the correct place in the video for verification. Just be sure that if you cite somemone stating an opinion, that it's correctly attributed as that person's opinion rather than stating it as fact in Wikipedia's voice. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! However, I don't know how to add a specific moment in the video that pinpoints the moment that I would be writing about. Could you help me out with how to integrate it into the link that would be set up for said moment in the documentary? GabMen20 (talk) 18:29, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- First, you use the actual youtube.com URL, not a link shortener URL. That would be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0 in this case. Then you just add a time parameter. For example, if I wanted the playback to start at 12:32, I would add &12m32s (12 minutes 32 seconds) to that URL, as in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0&12m32s - YouTube automatically translates this to the start time in seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0&t=752s - so either 12m32s or 752s would work. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! Will definetly use it in further edits. GabMen20 (talk) 21:48, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @GabMen20,youtube is not a reliable source,but reliable sources do post on it,i would say you can cite reliable news sources that have posted on youtube such as the new york times,but do not cite a random channel, UnsungHistory (Questions or Concerns?) (See how I messed up) 19:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! Will definetly use it in further edits. GabMen20 (talk) 21:48, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- First, you use the actual youtube.com URL, not a link shortener URL. That would be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0 in this case. Then you just add a time parameter. For example, if I wanted the playback to start at 12:32, I would add &12m32s (12 minutes 32 seconds) to that URL, as in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0&12m32s - YouTube automatically translates this to the start time in seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0&t=752s - so either 12m32s or 752s would work. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! However, I don't know how to add a specific moment in the video that pinpoints the moment that I would be writing about. Could you help me out with how to integrate it into the link that would be set up for said moment in the documentary? GabMen20 (talk) 18:29, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
So. This article just underwent a page move.
I must have missed the discussion/RfC/whatever it was, wherever it took place. Can someone point me to it? Thanks - Shearonink (talk) 00:32, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Agree cannot find any requested move for this title change can anyone point it out to me.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:39, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- It was vandalism Nohorizonss (talk) 14:43, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Number of casualties
according to new york times 5 people died,meanwhile this wikipedia article says 6 people died [2] UnsungHistory (Questions or Concerns?) (See how I messed up) 19:53, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
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