Talk:2019 UEFA Champions League final

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There's a lot of unregulated IP deliberately editing non-participating clubs, perhaps out of personal amusement or seeking attention from potential meme creators. However, it causes several of user edits to not go through due to conflict. This is not a new case, as it happened last year during Russia 2018. Thus I recommend protecting this page, as well as those of both winning and losing semifinalists from this tournament.

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CharlieBroadway (talk) 21:45, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Kits

Not very good at kits, but Spurs socks are wrong and Liverpool will wear their home kit. Govvy (talk) 07:31, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Spurs will have first choice of kits, that's true, but it's possible that Liverpool will have to wear their away shirts because UEFA thinks white and red clash. Man Utd had to change when we played at Juventus this season, and that meant wearing a dark blue shirt against a team in black and white. There's no accounting for UEFA's kit clash decisions ahead of time without a source to back it up. – PeeJay 07:58, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Hmm, you removed them, guess it makes sense till the game is played, I also would of thought grey and white might clash, I can't see those two kits playing against each other. Govvy (talk) 09:34, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Liverpool also have a purple away kit they could use. – PeeJay 10:14, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Quoting User:SounderBruce

(Undid revision 896247986 by Govvy (talk): As explained on my talk page, BBC is phasing out use of .co.uk even within the UK, so we might as well make this future-proof; other edits are also restored to fix citation formatting)

I don't like being lied too, please don't bother lying to me, BBC is not phasing out .co.uk what so ever. Govvy (talk) 07:56, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

@Govvy: Per this FAQ updated recently: The BBC has two different versions of its website: one for UK audiences and one for international audiences. We’re changing this so we can focus on delivering world class online services to everyone. [...] The move to bbc.com will help us streamline our online operations, making them more efficient. [...] It’ll be a gradual process, beginning in 2018 and continuing throughout 2019. This change has already happened on the BBC Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland homepages. Almost all BBC pages will change eventually, though some of our older sites will stay as bbc.co.uk.

I doubt that the sports webpages used as citations in this article will be retained as part of the legacy domain. No need to call people liars. SounderBruce 05:55, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Jan Vertonghen's head injury

Was this incident really that big a deal? Players get injured in games all the time, and he was fit to play in the following game, so it can't have been that bad, not to mention the fact that his absence wasn't particularly felt in the second half of the first leg, what with Spurs keeping Ajax out for the final 75 minutes of that game. Yes, there was a news report about Vertonghen's injury, but I think it's monumentally overstating things to say that because a news article was written that it was particularly noteworthy. – PeeJay 18:23, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Karius's concussion from last year's final had a lot of coverage, and Vertonghen's was compared to it because of the improper protocol followed by the on-field staff. It received separate coverage beyond the match reports and clippings, even abroad, so I think that it is generally notable and it certainly doesn't hurt to include it. Concussions in sports is a rather big deal right now, across multiple sports, so it's important to include. SounderBruce 19:56, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Karius's concussion from last year's final received coverage because he made a high-profile error that led directly to a goal. Vertonghen did not even suffer a concussion, according to a neurologist. – PeeJay 07:27, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Should not be included, made no difference in the outcome. Kante4 (talk) 13:42, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Citation style

The original citation style, which is meant to match what is displayed by {{cite news}}, should be restored to keep things consistent in the backend. @PeeJay2K3: Mind explaining why you insist on changing the citation style to given–surname instead of surname–given? Surname–given is by far the most neutral way, especially in the case of non-Western names that may or may not be used, so this doesn't make much sense for readers or editors. SounderBruce 03:31, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

I changed it to match the citation templates that were already in place in the article before the mass addition of content last week. Also, you know the order of the parameters in a template doesn't affect how the template renders in the finished article, right? – PeeJay 07:36, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Tone issues in Road to the final section

As the clock passed the five-minute mark, Moura completed his hat-trick with a first-time shot from just inside the penalty area to make the score 3–3 on aggregate and put Spurs through to the final on away goals.

There are better terms in all varieties of English for these three phrases, which read like they were transcribed from the lips of a football commentator (or even borderline slang) instead of being written in a formal tone that is fit for an encyclopedia. Even if this is an all-English final, that does not mean we should be using British slang that requires explanation for readers from other countries in the Anglosphere or beyond. SounderBruce 07:02, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

This is not "British slang", it is common sporting vernacular most commonly used in Britain. It should make sense to anyone with a modicum of intellect at their disposal. – PeeJay 16:18, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Is the fan interference worth mentioning?

Mid game a girl from the crowd got into the field, until escorted out. Is this worth mentioning? Maybe in a trivia section? --79.180.126.111 (talk) 09:11, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Fan misbehaviour

The part about the fan misbehaviour "In the semi-finals, Liverpool faced tournament favourites Barcelona, amid misbehaviour from their fans before the first leg in Spain." sounds misleading to me. It suggests that all fans misbehaved as in fact it were 6 people (among several thousands). I also question the relevancy of this quote since this article is about the final, not the first leg of the semi final. Mojo2601 (talk) 08:11, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not convinced it belongs there either. Be gone with it. – PeeJay 16:17, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

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