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Section size for 2019–20 Australian bushfire season (50 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	25,519	25,519
Overview	28,321	28,321
Fire potential	5,326	5,326
Regions affected	709	112,219
New South Wales	3,298	57,191
North Coast	2,248	2,248
Mid North Coast	9,522	9,522
Hunter	1,244	1,244
Blue Mountains and Hawkesbury	2,072	2,638
Escaped Backburns	566	566
Mt Wilson Backburn	5,131	5,131
Sydney	9,937	9,937
Southern Highlands	3,369	3,369
South Coast	9,482	9,482
Riverina	3,649	3,649
Snowy Mountains	6,673	6,673
Victoria	11,286	11,286
Queensland	8,469	8,469
South Australia	11,393	11,393
Western Australia	9,576	9,576
Tasmania	2,610	2,610
Australian Capital Territory	10,185	10,185
Northern Territory	800	800
Precedents	3,474	3,474
Environmental effects	6,482	6,482
Ecological effects	14,958	14,958
Archaeological effects	1,870	1,870
Domestic response	22	15,686
New South Wales	5,340	5,340
Commonwealth	2,470	6,286
Military	3,816	3,816
Community organizations	4,038	4,038
International response	7,309	29,301
International aid	21,992	21,992
Causes	3,188	44,202
Ignition	3,623	3,623
Drought and temperature	5,300	5,300
Climate change	8,856	8,856
Public reaction and speculation over causes	7,520	7,520
Misinformation and contested reporting	15,715	15,715
Political response	3,852	23,975
Criticism and controversy	10,293	10,293
Royal commission and other inquiries	7,720	7,720
Other names	2,110	2,110
Donations	14,159	16,795
Scams and fraud	2,636	2,636
See also	468	468
Notes	24	24
References	28	28
External links	2,117	2,117
Total	330,765	330,765

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is removing the cost too much to ask for

I think its tarnished the money

It's a perfectly reasonable infobox field. Mitch Ames (talk) 03:39, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but surely deaths should be higher up in the infobox than costs Chidgk1 (talk) 17:00, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, I think having deaths as the last item makes sense. Your eyes will notice the deaths at the end of the box.--Jack Upland (talk) 00:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fact check needed

81% of the Blue Mountains World Heritage Area burned.

Is this accurate? It seems very high. Jack Upland (talk) 00:39, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The source following that claim does NOT mention it. Delete? HiLo48 (talk) 04:42, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say so. I know the area fairly well and there's no way 81% was burnt.--Jack Upland (talk) 05:07, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The claim has been restored. It is actually featured on page 6 of the report that's downloadable from the website listed as a source. But it can't possibly be true.--Jack Upland (talk) 04:54, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This says "More than 60 per cent of the Greater Blue Mountains World Heritage Area was fire-affected and more than half of this burnt with high or very high severity."--Jack Upland (talk) 06:18, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:2019–20 Australian bushfire season/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Steelkamp (talk · contribs) 16:06, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is going to be a quickfail. The template in the lead section is correct that the lead is too long. The rest of the article is too long as well and could benefit with splitting into smaller articles. The problem is that this is one article trying to summarise numerous fires that don't have articles, and some of the major ones could probably do with on, leaving this to be just an overview. Another possibilty is splitting into state-based subarticles if splitting off the larger fires isn't viable.

Another problem is that here are 11 citation needed tags. I notice that you have not made any edits to this article. It is extremely rare for an article to just be lying around at or near GA level without a concerted effort made by editors to get it to GA level. I recommend not nominating articles you haven't made significant edits to. Steelkamp (talk) 16:06, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am extremely new to this but:

Consider removing paragraph 2 to "Precedents", it isn't the focus of the article.
The political ramifications of the fire season have ... resulted in controversy is better in the Political Response section, it isn't relevant to the overview specifically.
Whereas these bushfires ... in damage, this line is irrelevant to the whole article.
The Overview section is not chronologically written.
The table in the Overview section should be moved to the Regions Affected. It is too extensive to be part of an overview.
The See also: under the Precedents section should be moved to the start of the article.
The Scams and Frauds section should be moved from the Donation section.

Hephan (talk) 10:45, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

disparity between sidebar and article claims of area burnt

the sidebar claims that the burnt area was "Approximately 30000 square kilometer", and is entirely unsourced (also doesn't conform to the australian english style), while the body of the article sources the royal commission and claims "24.3 million hectares (60 million acres; 243,000 square kilometres; 94,000 square miles". personally i trust the latter value, given the fact that it has a source, and is much more congruent with of the papers i've read on the topic

the unsourced 30000km2 value is from fluffysandbox's edit on 08:42, 14 January 2023‎. i'm going to update the figure to the 243000km2 value for now, but just pointing this out in the talk

edit after checking: fluffysandbox is also a sockpuppet of a user who's got a history of making a load of erroneous incorrect edits 😔 You know i had to do it to em and i did what had to be done (talk) 04:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]