Talk:2016–17 United States network television schedule

Seriously?

This has got to be wayyy tooo early for this page to exist. NTC TNT (talk) 05:19, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

When Will this article come 68.103.78.83 (talk) 14:15, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Keep this article save it from being deleted. 68.103.78.83 (talk) 14:20, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Keep this. I use all years all the time and it is NOT blank, it has info on it 2604:6000:C843:9700:3448:27C9:EE6:87E3 (talk) 17:44, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

That's right it is not blank it has info on it by the way the tv season for this season has started. Please save this article from being deleted and get your lazy butts in gear right now. 68.103.78.83 (talk) 19:48, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

68.103.78.83, the 2016-17 season hasn't started. The 2015-16 season just started. Just because an article has info on it does not make it needed or mean it should remain a page. This shouldn't be created for a couple months. 140.211.54.220 (talk) 05:02, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Save This Article

Will you please stop removing schedule templates and articles this needs to be stopped right please improve this article now because this article is not blank and it has some information on it and get your lazy butts in gear now. 68.103.78.83 (talk) 19:40, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

April 2016

This user, 69.118.146.138, is continuing to vandalize the 2016–17 United States network television schedule by adding one nonsense show after another. He must be blocked immediately. AdamDeanHall (talk) 23:11, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

It appears that at least some of the shows you are edit warring over being false are real. Good fortune, for example.[1] It's not clear that it's vandalism. @AdamDeanHall:, can you give examples of a phony show? Toddst1 (talk) 23:12, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Here are some examples: "Good Fortune", "When We Rise", and even some phony TVSeriesFinale.com articles. AdamDeanHall (talk) 23:25, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Follow the link I gave you above - good fortune is real. so is The Family (2016 TV series). This looks like a hell of an edit war, not vandalism. Toddst1 (talk) 23:25, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

"When We Rise" is also a real series picked up by ABC, commissioned for an 8-episode run. Someone keeps removing the title from the new series section. I'm not naming names, but it's real. See source. Jefflin555 (talk) 08:57, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

June 2016

Notre Dame Football on NBC comes first on the Fall schedule on NBC, then the two programs Dateline Saturday Mystery and SNL Vintage. Instead of reverting the edit on the 2016–17 United States network television schedule page, let's just talk about it and see where we go from here. AdamDeanHall (talk) 14:51, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

@AdamDeanHall Notre Dame Football on NBC isn't on the schedule on NBC at all. The only football on the schedule is on Thursdays and Sundays. 74thClarkBarHG (talk) 19:40, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

There are two games in NBC prime time during the fall according to the ND schedule; a note covers this well enough. Nate • (chatter) 17:38, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Local programming

The blue parts of the 2016–17 United States network television schedule page are supposed to say "Local programming", not "Local news/programming". Please let me know which you prefer. AdamDeanHall (talk) 23:11, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Removing "Follow-up"

Year after year, I look at the American broadcast season schedules and ask myself what the hell is meant by "follow-up" on the schedule. It isn't a seasonal label, the way the others are, it imparts no new information, and it's mis-applied in the sense that to follow up is to take a second round of action after initial action, which has nothing to do with the seasonal labels it follows. The networks certainly don't use it; at most, they might identify shows starting later in a given season as starting mid-season (i.e. mid-winter) or late season (i.e. late spring). We see that in media materials all the time. But follow-up? Never.

Given this, the questions about the use of follow-up I've seen editors use from time-to-time, the fact it seems to be solely one editor with WP:OWN issues who is pushing the use of the term follow-up, and this discussion (see comments by Nate about halfway down), I've removed follow-up and replaced it with the meaningful and parallel terms mid-fall or late fall, as appropriate. The construction is parallel and the terms are meaningful, as well as in line with what the industry actually uses. Based on a roughly 9/15-12/15 fall broadcast period, I've labeled anything starting after October 1 through roughly November 10 as mid-fall and anything starting after roughly November 10 as late fall. It's arbitrary at this point and certainly subject to some fine tuning, but at least it's meaningful. --Drmargi (talk) 12:37, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

I agree that the term is a bit confusing. CBS refers to it's schedule from September-October as it's fall schedule and your terms mid-late fall as Post-NFL. I suppose that could also be used on football nights. Heartfox (talk) 21:39, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

That's a thought, but let me play devil's advocate. My terms are more generic and apply across the schedule. What you're referring to sounds like they are more specific to CBS and football, which isn't going to mean much to viewers, like me, who don't organize our lives around the NFL schedule. We'll never get it perfectly aligned with the networks, but our purpose is to convey information to readers. As long as we have internal consistency as to what time block is mid-fall and what time block is late fall, I think we're good. And best, that the silly, meaningless "follow-up" is replaced by terms that have meaning. --Drmargi (talk) 22:25, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm Canadian and don't watch American football at all lol it was just a thought. I agree with replacing follow-up with mid-(insert season here). Heartfox (talk) 22:51, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Oh, Canada! Gotcha. It's a good thought, just a little limiting. Hopefully we'll get some good discussion going on the time periods for the terms and can refine them a bit. --Drmargi (talk) 22:53, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Seems all good to me (and we definitely shouldn't delineate according to the NFL season; thank goodness Fox has killed the 'everything starts after the World Series' mode of scheduling). I think the best way to go about this is to go with the National Weather Service definition of seasons by quarters partially (December-March winter, March-Nielsen's end of season spring, summer break summer, and then fall is beginning of season to December), though admittedly the fall is always the toughest to define perfectly; I'd go with start-of-season to American Columbus Day as early (I certainly don't care for the holiday but it makes for good delineation), Columbus Day to November 1 as mid, then late until December 1. Nate • (chatter) 02:40, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

My thinking was to take the 12-13 week fall broadcast block and divide it into three roughly even time periods as fall, mid-fall and late fall. I just scratched it out on a piece of paper, but it was designed to align to the broadcast calendar a bit more closely than to the ordinary calendar. I didn't fiddle with it beyond fall, but will, and see how that hangs together v. what you're suggesting. --Drmargi (talk) 03:31, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Judging from you calling 'mid-fall' on the ABC Tuesday sitcoms in October it looks like your thinking pretty matches mine, so I think you did a good job overall; nothing I'm seeing right now needs real changing (at least until the first cancellation comes in). Nate • (chatter) 04:59, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Maybe there's the trick: live with it until the first cancellations, then revisit as we go. --Drmargi (talk) 07:39, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

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Debates

Should we mention somewhere that some of the series are having breaks during the presidential debates? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.73.96.35 (talk) 07:46, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

CBS The Good Fight

The Good Fight has been picked up to series and is slated for CBS All Access. However, it will premiere on CBS the broadcast network. Should it be added to the new series section on this page? What do you guys think? Jefflin555 (talk) 19:01, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

So, the press releases for The Good Fight and Star Trek: Discovery state that the airings on CBS are "special broadcast preview"s. The latest says:

The series premiere will be available on-demand on CBS All Access beginning at 8:00 PM ET. In addition, a special broadcast preview of the premiere will air on the CBS Television Network that same night, Sunday, Feb.19 at 8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT. After premiere night, all new episodes will be available weekly on Sundays exclusively for CBS All Access subscribers.

But the earlier reference also says: "The Next Chapter of the Legendary "Star Trek" TV Franchise Will Premiere on the CBS Television Network, Then Move to CBS All Access Digital Subscription Service" along with referring to it as a "special broadcast preview".

So, are they CBS broadcast series that move to the premium streaming service CBS All Access after the first episode (in which it clearly belongs on the list of CBS New Series), a CBS All Access show with a special preview on CBS, or a CBS All Access program that is simulcast on CBS for the first episode only (in which case one could argue that it does not go on the list of new CBS series)? OrhanCharles (talk) 11:05, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

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