Talk:2015 World Rally Championship

WRC drivers that do not score manufacturer points

In the recent days some unregistered user constantly editing the Teams and drivers section "Major entries ineligible to score manufacturer points". The cases being the status of Henning Solberg and Robert Kubica. In Monte Carlo entry list both drivers are registered as privateers without teams, while in Sweden Solberg's team entry is being listed as Adapta Motorsport and Kubica's - as RK World Rally Team. As these entries do not score manufacturer points I suggest that their team entries should remain from their first appearance (in this case Monte Carlo Rally) Ivaneurope (talk) 16:09, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We have a similar case with M-Sport in the 2013 season, where for Monte Carlo, they where listen as "M-Sport Ltd." and for Sweden it already have the "Qatar M-Sport World Rally Team", so it was changed to the final name.

In this case, happens the same. As the entry list for Monte Closes in the previous year of competition (in this case, December 2014), some drivers registered them-self but they still don't know who will run they're cars. I would say that we put the Sweden teams, and if for Mexico they go back to they're privateer name, we changed back (or keep 2 lines representing each entry). The Same happens with Protasov, as in Sweden appears as "D-MAX Swiss", not just "D-MAX Racing" as it Appeared in Monte. For now, I think we should actualize them to the ones from Sweden. MNSZ (talk) 21:29, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is another issue with these tables. Volkswagen Motorsport II is listed in both the eligible for manufacturer points table for round 1&2 and the ineligible for manufacturer points table for round 1. They can't have been both eligible and ineligible for manufacturer points at the same rally, can they? And why is round 2 even mentioned in that table when it still has to happen? Tvx1 (talk) 17:48, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

About Mikkelsen, was an error. I just corrected it. Only round 2 is eligible for Manufacturer points (thanks for point it out!). Round 2 is already mentioned because the entry list is already published (normally, they published about 1 month before the rally). If a driver don't start the event, then we erased. But until then, all those drivers in the event entry list, are listed on the table. MNSZ (talk) 20:42, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. That makes much more sense now the error has been corrected. Updating once the entry for the next rally list is published is a sensible approach as well. I am a regular contributor for the F1 articles and we use the same approach. In F1 however the entry list is only published on thursday ahead of the race on sunday. That's why I was surprised they were mentioned here this far ahead of the rally. Tvx1 (talk) 18:42, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Discrepancies

There are numerous discrepancies between our standings tables and the official standings. For instance our Drivers' standings include an Argentine bloke called Federico Villagra in 22nd place, who doesn't appear in the official standings nor in our entry lists. Secondly our Co-drivers' standings table includes only 16 classified drivers, while the official standings have 21 of them, some of whom are not in our entry lists. On an unrelated note, some of the British (co-)drivers' nationalities were listed as English|Northern Irish|Welsh. The FIA lists all of them as British, so I changed it that. They represent the UK in the World Championship because the FIA only allows nationalities of sovereign states. Those drivers' articles should match that. T v x1 15:27, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The standings here is wrong. In Argentina Villagra was classidied as 10th, but in a regional car, which is not allowed to score championship points. That last point went to Tänäk, who finished 11th in that rally. It should be corrected in the table.Wild8oar (talk) 16:05, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)It looks to have been corrected already. Does that apply to Gustavo Saba from Paraguay too? He seems to have used a regional car as well. There isn't even any mention of Skoda in this article. And of course the co-drivers table still has issues too.

Hi there! I Been out for a couple of month. I just corrected all the tables and added the Rally de Portugal summary. Please Check it out and let me know if you spot any mistake. About co-drivers and drivers not on the Entry List, here we only post the ones registered in a World Rally Car. So if for example a WRC-2 entry finished on the top ten, they will appear in the standings but not in the Teams and Drivers' table. Thanks! MNSZ (talk) 17:07, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for fixing the table! Just one detail: why don't we list Tänäk still as 11th and leave the note about scoring a point? The way it is now is a bit inconsistent. Wild8oar (talk) 17:05, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I leave him in tenth place becouse according to the official FIA standing table he finished tenth, not eleventh. That's consistent as Villagra's car was a Maxi-Rally car, and directly was not par of the World Championship. What everybody else think? should we put him in tenth or in eleventh place? MNSZ (talk) 23:36, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If we are going to put Tänak's position in the championship table as the one he finished at within the group of drivers eligible for championship points (=10th) we should be consistent and apply that to all the drivers. For instance we list Ketomaa Jari in 12th position for the Argentine Rally, but if you only count the drivers who were eligible for championship points he finished 11th. Yuriy Protasov should be 12th, Hayden Paddon should be 14th (there seems to be a mistake in the table as Paddon finished 15th and not 16th in that rally. See the official results) and Sébastien Ogier should be 15th. The same applies for the co-drivers table. T v x1 00:02, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On the event results Tänäk is listed as 11th and on the championship standings he is just assigned 1 point. Thus, it seems clear to me, that he is classified as 11th and got 1 point because the 10th place was not eligible. Wild8oar (talk) 06:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok! I put him and his co-driver back to 11th. Check it please! MNSZ (talk) 12:59, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, thanks! I think now it is consistent in itself and with wrc.com. Wild8oar (talk) 14:29, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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