Talk:2010s/Archive 3

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Image should be changed & most of the introduction in the beginning are not right.

The events in the image don’t really define the 2010s. I have a couple of things in mind that defines the 2010s, I’ll share them if you are willing to change. They are much more suitable.

Also the economic description in the beginning should be changed. The 2010s began with a new wave of Political, economical & popular cultural changes dating from the late 2000s. Politically, it began with Barack Obama’s presidency which marked a period of progressive reform. Economically, the United States and the global economy were recovering from the late 2000s financial crisis fueled by growth in the technology sector. Inflation and interest rates were low throughout the decade, unemployment rates decreased all the way from 2010-2019 which marked a period of recovery and it is also the decade that had no recession occurring. It is also known as one of the most peaceful periods of economic state by economists as every year, GDP was growing throughout the decade. ExoticPride (talk) 14:52, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

I also want to mention the economic recovery saw a rise in the optimistic and upbeat state of music during that time with rising popularity in Electropop & EDM. ExoticPride (talk) 14:54, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Do you have sources for that? OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:27, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes. I study Economics and I have the sources saved. ExoticPride (talk) 18:26, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Recent additions to the second paragraph

"Following the optimistic economical recovery, the decade saw a musical and cultural trend rise in Rave, Electronic dance music, Hipster culture and Electropop."

This may very well be true, but the final paragraph of the lead already touches on the music industry in better detail (saying "Globalization and an increased demand for variety and personalisation in the face of music streaming services such as Spotify, SoundCloud and Apple Music created many subgenres. Dance, hip-hop, and pop music surged into the 2010s, with EDM achieving mass commercial success. Digital music sales topped CD sales in 2012."), making this redundant.

"Socially, the decade saw the rise of social media such as YouTube and Instagram and streaming services."

YouTube had been on the rise since 2004, and several other social media sites had been on the rise since the 2000s, so this is not really something unique to this decade. You might very well have an argument for mentioning Instagram, alongside TikTok and whatever other platforms got popular this decade. I have now addressed this by adding this content instead, which is more accurate:

"Baidu, Twitter and Instagram emerged to become among the top 10 most visited websites, while Wikipedia went the 9th to 5th most popular website, almost septupling its monthly visits. Yahoo significantly declined in popularity, descending from being the 1st to 9th most popular site, with monthly visits declining by two-thirds. Google, Facebook, and YouTube maintained consistent popularity and remained within the top 10 throughout the decade."

Also, you keep re-adding the inauguration of Barack Obama even though it happened in the prior decade (2009). This is blatantly incorrect. Koopinator (talk) 19:26, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

@ExoticPride: Hello? Koopinator (talk) 15:10, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

There has to be a political beginning? what are your slots if you have any on your mind? I don't think there was anything political more than the start of Barack Obama that ruled from 2009 to 2017, that was almost the whole 10s decade. ExoticPride (talk) 15:16, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

@ExoticPride: The English noun "inauguration" derives from "inaugurate", which means "to make a formal beginning of; initiate; commence; begin". Because the 2010s lasted from 2010 to 2019, and Obama's inauguration took place in 2009, it is factually incorrect to say that the 2010s "began with the inauguration of Barack Obama". I see you've removed this phrasing regardless. Your new edits are relatively better, though I strongly disagree with your decision to remove material related to climate change, and I will reinstate this content. Koopinator (talk) 17:37, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

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Collage picture separation

Looks like a user split up the collage into all the individual pictures (July 5, 2023). Personally, I think it makes it look more messy. What are everyone’s thoughts? The ganymedian (talk) 21:13, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

It looks better now. The caption looked messy and hard to read before. Hddty (talk) 05:52, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect Information About Donald Trump

Donald Trump was not the first President without prior military experience. There have been several, including Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Thomas Jefferson. https://www.safecallnow.org/which-presidents-did-not-serve-in-the-military/ 50.110.175.234 (talk) 06:36, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

the Higgs boson on the 2010s collage

can someone put the Higgs boson on the 2012 collage, someone mentioned it should be on the 2010's collage on the 2012 talk page, any thoughts. 4me689 (talk) 20:55, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Flags in this article

I recently removed flags within tables on this article. MOS:WORDPRECEDENCE explains that words should be given priority, over icons or other pictorial representations, for the simple reason that they are more likely to be understood by the reader. MOS:ICONDECORATION also explains that icons (in this case flag icons) should not pepper articles just because they look pretty. @Koopinator: partially reverted this, by restoring the flags, with linked country names.

I understand how this is better than what was there originally, but it still leaves the article with distracting icon decoration. What are the flags adding to the tables and article, other than crowding the table columns?

The linking of country names in this way could also be considered overlinking. The MOS guidance says that recognisable country names should not be linked. It is unlikely that the reader is going to use the country links here to skip over the linked event, and go straight to the country article.

So I would suggest the use of flags and (most) country links is unnecessary here, and against Manual of Style. Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 09:14, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

The Economic State of the 2010s (Previously: Possible vandalism?)

On October 24th 2023, this User:Melotrance has reverted my manual edits that reverted previous edits by User:ExoticPride from way back in January 2023 on 4 separate occasions, in such a way that has prevented me from reverting (with a click) his reversions of my edits.

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Obviously, as you can see his reverted information are unsourced, and are causing a disinformation of recent history. Nobody would seriously associate the 2010s with a strong economy or being the "Golden Age of Television".

Please discuss what is to be done. Ahmadiskandarshah (talk) 21:53, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi.

I have reverted your edits but I corrected and took out the 'Golden Age Of Television' and the 'prosperous economy' and replaced it with 'stability'.

I took out the irrelevant bits.

And if you have been touch with the economy, the market of the 2010s was stable throughout the decade. Yes, there was a huge unemployment and inflation at the start of 2010 but they all decrease throughout the years and GDP grows yearly without any form of bubble bursts or official recession term.

If you clearly look at the 2007-2009 financial crisis, the recovery had already kicked in by 2009 despite still being in pain.

Also, to me it sounds like you're editing things based on a personal perspective rather than a whole.

The 10s didn't have a strong economy but its stability is remarkable.

And if you are going to do this, might as well as change the 90s Wikipedia Page when it says 'many developed countries were economically prosperous in the 90s' which is untrue.

Asia and Europe were suffering. It was mostly just the US.

Melotrance (talk) 03:24, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

2009-2020 economic expansion.

Goldilocks economy refers to 'not too hot' and 'not too cold'.

In alternate, it's stability.

Scroll down to see about the 2009-2020 economic expansion on the link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldilocks_economy?wprov=sfti1 Melotrance (talk) 03:30, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you for your perspective. I see your point. My apologies if there are any assumptions of bad faith.

Regarding the 1990s, like you said, the economic state is different for every country, and also, is different for different parts of the decade. America actually had a recession in the early 90s, which was followed by an economic boom that lasted throughout the decade, whereas in the same time period, Asia, that enjoyed a stable economy from early-to-mid 90s until the financial crisis in 1997.

Even when putting aside the United States, the 2010s economy might be a boon for a country like China, meanwhile the 2010s was a crisis decade for Venezuela, Greece, and Ireland.

Unless if one's writing about a decade that was defined by their economic state (e.g. 1930s), it is important to consider factors, such as locations and periods within decade, when discussing the economic situation for a lengthy period of time like a decade.

With that said, I would like to keep this talk section open to gather more perspectives on the economic state in the 2010s, so that a consensus could be formed.

Thank you. Ahmadiskandarshah (talk) 13:15, 27 October 2023 (UTC)