Talk:2002 Football League Second Division play-off final

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2002 Football League Second Division play-off final has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 23, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed
September 19, 2021	Good topic candidate	Promoted
January 24, 2024	Good topic removal candidate	Demoted

Current status: Good article

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:2002 Football League Second Division play-off Final/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Usernameunique (talk · contribs) 07:59, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

from the Football League Second Division — What tier is that?
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Route to the final

crowd trouble — Any details?
No. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The home side had two goals ruled out — Minutes?
No, not explicitly, some mention of some time after the "half hour mark" but nothing definitive for the first, and "seconds after" another non-timed event for the second. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
in the second half was given offside — Who/what was given offside?
Booth again: added "he". The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Lloyd Owusu scored for Brentford — Any details on the goal?
None I'm afraid. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Background

This was Brentford's second appearance in the third-tier play-off finals — Any appearances in other tiers?
Nope. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
having lost both the 1997 Football League Second Division play-off Final 1–0 against Crewe Alexandra. — This says "both the", but then gives only one match.
Deleted both. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
They had also lost in the semi-finals of the 1991 and 1995. — Of the 1991 and 1995 what?
+play-offs. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In an attempt to avoid a repetition of the crowd trouble in the play-offs, local police moved the kick-off time to 1:30 p.m. — What was the originally scheduled time? Why would moving it make for less trouble?
I don't know, one assumes 3pm but not mentioned. Traditionally early kick offs are designed to allow people less time to get drunk. That's not mentioned explicitly either, but it's my working assumption. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
artist Andrew Vicari installed a mural painted with the guidance of a feng shui expert in the dressing room — As a general thing, or an attempt to "break the curse"?
To "break the curse" but I couldn't find anything that didn't read like a load of old mumbo-jumbo. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You would normally mention the ref (Graham Laws) and formation here, no?
Ref added, formations not noted in the sources. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Summary

Stoke dominated the first half and increased their pressure on Brentford and took the lead in the 16th minute — "increased their pressure on Brentford" is redundant, no? They clearly did so if they "dominated the first had" and "took the lead".
I guess. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Steve Sidwell's volley — Minute?
Not given. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Gunnlaugsson beat Evans and shot over the goal — Minute?
Likewise. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Details

Worth mentioning any more of the substitutions?
None of the sources mention them in any detail other than a footnote, like the article. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Post-match

He left Brentford the following month — Any word on whether he was fired/pushed out? Left for another job?
Done. Lack of Brentford's ambition. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:48, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
16th place in Second Division — "the Second Division"?
Indeed. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Despite gaining promotion, Stoke City sacked Þórðarson five days after the final — Any word on why?
Added. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:35, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
After 13 matches, Cotterill ... The following season saw them finish — You might revise to "13 matches into the following season, Cotterill ... They ended up finishing ..."
Reworded. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:20, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
How was Stoke faring after those first 13 matches?
Yeah, ok, adding that and also the fact they then went 13 further games without a win... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:35, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Overall

The Rambling Man, another one for you. --Usernameunique (talk) 07:59, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Usernameunique all done/addressed above. Cheers again for the review. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:48, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, The Rambling Man, passing now. --Usernameunique (talk) 05:21, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]