Talk:U2 concert in Sarajevo

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Howie B and other info

I think that some info from this picture should be included in the article. I find it interesting that Howie B was listed on the poster as an opening act, but didn't end up performing. I think I remember reading he was arrested for drug possession, so maybe someone could look into that. Plus the info lists the time the gates opened, the time the band soundchecked, and also that "Desire" was a possibility in the setlist. Not sure if anyone feels this stuff is relevant, but it would be nice to see it included, especially the part about Howie B since his name is listed on the poster, but not mentioned in the article. –Dream out loud (talk) 19:50, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

This is actually confusing. There are contradictory reports on this it seems. The reference in the article says he didn't play, but in this article Howie B says that he did. The best I can figure is that his role was as a DJ in between the third band and U2; hence he didn't actually perform on stage, but he was involved as an 'opening act'. Melicans (talk, contributions) 16:42, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah that is confusing. I've to see another source mentioning him at the show though, including U2 Live, which is the "definitive" live resource. But then it says "'Guest honorary DJ: Howie B' , which was obviously made up," so what does that mean? –Dream out loud (talk) 21:01, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

I think that statement is about fliers that the Sarajevo people mocked up, but only after the fliers were made was Howie B invited (?) to the concert. At least, that was my interpretation. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 21:28, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

I have two interpretations. The first it is that he was scheduled as an opener and fulfilled that role as a DJ in between the third act and U2. Following the concert he then did a second, rather impromptu, performance at what equates to a club following the doctored posters by the city's youths (though the article also states he didn't have his records on him, which leads to the question what he DJ'd as an opener). The second is that he simply accompanied the band to Sarajevo as a regular concertgoer/celebrity guest (certainly not an uncommon occurance to see one or two in attendance at most shows), and after viewing the doctored posters decided to do that impromptu performance in the club. U2 Live doesn't include him in the list of openers, and the only two sources where I have seen him mentioned are the Mediachild poster and the above article. Perhaps the best solution would be to simply remove that sentence if we cannot verify him as an opener? Melicans (talk, contributions) 00:50, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

U2 Live somewhat clarifies this on page 202, which I just noticed last night. I says that on the second leg, "Fans at PopMart Europe are no strange to the tunes DJ Howie B spins before U2 take the stage." So he was basically just DJing, not physically performing on the stage. Not sure if we should list him as an opening act, but at least mention a blurb in the article since his name is on the infobox poster. –Dream out loud (talk) 19:37, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Nice job integrating that into the prose. Melicans (talk, contributions) 23:57, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Article creation

While not shown as the article creator in the history, I note that User:MelicansMatkin had the initial idea for this article and developed much (most?) of the original content in his user space. His sandbox An excellent idea, and excellent start, and now becoming an excellent article. Well done. --Merbabu (talk) 00:48, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, he had the great idea to create this article. Although I contributed a lot to the sandbox (we accidentally wrote competing versions of the article simultaneously!) and now the live version of the article, Melicans has been a key contributor. Let's shoot for FAC! Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 02:04, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

"yeah" indeed. He did have the idea, and he did the lion's share of the work in his sandbox (yes, he did seek contributions from others). As I'm a lot more forward on wikipedia than Matkins, let me point out that you did not consult Matkins when you took it out of his sandbox, and your "creating article" first edit summary claims implies all credit to you and gives none to Matkins. The credit you do give him here was after i brought it up. --Merbabu (talk) 12:43, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not trying to claim credit for anything, nor am I trying to detract from anything that anyone did. I just want to see that a quality article is created (read: written, evolved, transformed). Honestly - are you just trying to cause conflict now? This discussion is almost 3 weeks old and you're dredging it up... now? You absolutely misinterpreted my tone in my last comment. Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 17:21, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:1997 U2 concert in Sarajevo/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Annalise (talk) 22:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC) Hi, I'm going to be reviewing this article over the next few days.

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   My only concern is about the set list: the manual of style says that lists should only be included if they cannot be integrated into the prose, and it seems like the set list is already well-integrated. I have more details in the section on images.

   And those are fixed!

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   Looks good.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   Everything seems fine to me, but I don't know very much about the Bosnian War, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was something related to that that I didn't catch.

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   Most of the images look good, and although it would be nice to have an actual image of the concert, I can understand if that isn't possible. I'm a little confused, though, about the set list image. I don't think that it's necessary to have both the set list in text and in an image. Honestly, I think the section above the lists goes over the songs that were played quite well.

The image was originally included since it showed that the band had considered playing an additional song, but that it did not make the setlist. I agree with your comments though, so I've integrated it into the prose instead and removed both the setlist section and the image. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 02:05, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay, that makes SO much more sense. I figured it was something like that, but I'm glad you fixed it. The article looks much better now. Annalise (talk) 02:53, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

1. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   And it looks like everything's good. Congratulations!

News articles

There are tons of news articles about the concert I found at Google News. I think we should incorporate some info from these cause reading through them I found some tidbits that aren't already in the article. I'll see if I can get around and add some info, but if anyone would like a copy of an article (since most are pay-per-view), let me know via email since I can get online copies from my university. –Dream out loud (talk) 05:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Looks like there are a lot of great articles available. In 2 minutes of browsing, I've already come across information about Bono receiving an honorary passport to Bosnia, and some stats on the money/labourers spent on the show. I'll be sure to ask you for the full versions of any articles that pique my interest. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 13:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Do you think you can obtain a copy of this article? [1] - it talks about Bono's visit to Sarajevo for New Year's 1995/1996. Thanks. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 13:24, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, sure I can get you a copy. Just send me an email since that's the only way I'll be able to get you a copy of the article. –Dream out loud (talk) 15:30, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

What is your email? Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 13:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Go to my user page and on the left pane under the toolbox section, click "Email this user". –Dream out loud (talk) 02:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I just sent the article, but there's not much there. The whole article is only a couple sentences long. –Dream out loud (talk) 05:20, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I didn't realize the limited preview was essentially the complete article. In any case, thanks for sending it along. I'll see if there are any other articles that I want to read through. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 23:21, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Template up for deletion

Note that {{Infobox concert}}, which we use in this article, has been listed at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion. The ongoing discussion is here. Melicans (talk, contributions) 21:14, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

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