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Contested move request

The following request to move a page has been added to Wikipedia:Requested moves as an uncontroversial move, but this has been contested by one or more people. Any discussion on the issue should continue here. If a full request is not lodged within five days of this request being contested, the request will be removed from WP:RM. —Stemonitis 06:31, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1968-69 Western Canada Hockey League season → 1968-69 WCHL season - Move back to original title that use changed which was part of a naming standard. See below for reasoning. --Djsasso 04:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1969-70 Western Canada Hockey League season → 1969-70 WCHL season - Move back to original title that use changed which was part of a naming standard. See below for reasoning. --Djsasso 04:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1970-71 Western Canada Hockey League season → 1970-71 WCHL season - Move back to original title that use changed which was part of a naming standard. See below for reasoning. --Djsasso 04:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1971-72 Western Canada Hockey League season → 1971-72 WCHL season - Move back to original title that use changed which was part of a naming standard. See below for reasoning. --Djsasso 04:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1972-73 Western Canada Hockey League season → 1972-73 WCHL season - Move back to original title that use changed which was part of a naming standard. See below for reasoning. --Djsasso 04:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1973-74 Western Canada Hockey League season → 1973-74 WCHL season - Move back to original title that use changed which was part of a naming standard. See below for reasoning. --Djsasso 04:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1974-75 Western Canada Hockey League season → 1974-75 WCHL season - Move back to original title that use changed which was part of a naming standard. See below for reasoning. --Djsasso 04:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1975-76 Western Canada Hockey League season → 1975-76 WCHL season - Move back to original title that use changed which was part of a naming standard. See below for reasoning. --Djsasso 04:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1976-77 Western Canada Hockey League season → 1976-77 WCHL season - Move back to original title that use changed which was part of a naming standard. See below for reasoning. --Djsasso 04:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1977-78 Western Canada Hockey League season → 1977-78 WCHL season - Move back to original title that use changed which was part of a naming standard. See below for reasoning. --Djsasso 04:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1987-88 Ontario Hocke League season → 1987-88 OHL season — Move back to original title that user changed which was part of a naming standard. And its completely misspelled anyways. —Djsasso 03:44, 7 July 2007 (UTC) --Djsasso 03:44, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Contest I moved this article (the spelling error is entirely mine; my apologies) and other such articles with the rationale that if the main article is at "Ontario Hockey League" all daughter articles should incorporate that name rather than "OHL." For instance, see United Nations Security Council, not UN Security Council, UNSC, or Security Council. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 03:48, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do believe the standard is that all articles are to use the name they are most commonly referred to as. These leagues are best known as the OHL not the Ontario Hockey League. --Djsasso 03:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Both here and below I looked at WP:HOCKEY and didn't see a standard that contradicted my moves, but furthermore, I don't see why any standard should. Certainly the OHL itself is more commonly known as the OHL, but its article is not there, right? Why would all of the daughter articles of that main article have a different name? That seems illogical to me. Imagine the havoc that would wreak in a print encyclopedia, for instance. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 03:55, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COMMONNAME is the standard for all pages in wikipedia. And there was a naming convention set up at WP:HOCKEY or we wouldn't have had them all named exactly the same way. Regardless for moves of this magnitude you should be consulting the related wikiprojects. --Djsasso 03:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Realizing that the page name standard for sports leagues is currently completely thrown off by Koavf's move of literally every single abbreviated sports league page over the last few days, the common name is the abbreviated name. Thus the abbreviated name should be the standard for all pages except for the league's article itself, where the abbreviation is introduced for the league in the first sentence. --fuzzy510 16:14, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Should all be moved back to abbreviated names. Bsroiaadn^Talk 17:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support All, and not just this handful, but literally 100-200 hockey articles alone should be restored to their original location. While I can accept that Koavf was attempting these moves in good faith, they remain unnecessary and caused far more disruption than the move would be worth, even if it didn't go against WP:COMMONNAME or the de facto standard at WP:HOCKEY. That he also made some incrediblly illogical moves (ie: Edmonton Oil Kings (WCHL) --> Edmonton Oil Kings (Western Canada Hockey League)) shows that there was a complete lack of thought put into this project. Resolute 18:44, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Quebec Major Junior Hockey League seasons → List of QMJHL seasons — A user has been going on a rampage through numerous pages renaming them with the full names without checking its appropriate. This would just be reversing his move which I am unable to do myself. —Djsasso 03:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC) --Djsasso 03:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Shouldn't it use the full name? The name of the article uses the full name, as does similar articles (like List of National Football League seasons). TJ Spyke 03:36, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - The main article does. But as for the other example you used. He switched it too. He has litterally switched hundreds if not thousands of articles in the last couple of days. --Djsasso 03:44, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - Contest Per above as well. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 03:48, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      Again same as above. The standard is to use the name most commonly known by. This league is most commonly known as the QMJHL not the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League. There are naming conventions for sports leagues for a reason. --Djsasso 03:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      - Realizing that the page name standard for sports leagues is currently completely thrown off by Koavf's move of literally every single abbreviated sports league page over the last few days, the common name is the abbreviated name. Thus the abbreviated name should be the standard for all pages except for the league's article itself, where the abbreviation is introduced for the league in the first sentence. --fuzzy510 16:14, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        Support - Should all be moved back to abbreviated names. Bsroiaadn^Talk 17:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support move back per comments above. Resolute 18:44, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Edmonton Oil Kings (Western Canada Junior Hockey League) → Edmonton Oil Kings (WCHL) — Return to original dab's name which was part of the wiki projects naming standards. —Djsasso 16:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All these page movements by Koavf, should be reversed. He should have discussed is 'movements' plans, first. GoodDay 16:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Should all be moved back to abbreviated names. I completely agree with GoodDay Bsroiaadn^Talk 17:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support move per above. This was just a ridiculous move in the first place. Turned a reasonable disambiguation into a terrible one. Resolute 18:44, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support move per above. And on every article that has been moved. Kaiser matias 20:37, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone needs an admin to move any of the pages (I think I did all the ones listed above), contact me at my talk page. If you don't need an admin, and you oppose these non-consensual moves, I suggest you move them back, as the user seems to have moved thousands of pages without consensus and they are gradually all being reverted (or a good majority of them are being reverted). Pepsidrinka 22:01, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]