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GA Review

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Passed. Skyshiftertalk 19:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Skyshifter (talk · contribs) 22:36, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Second oldest nomination right now, let's do this. I'll try to review it this year still. Skyshiftertalk 22:36, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General comments

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  • Fair use image has a valid rationale
  • No copyvio (highest one there copies text from Wikipedia).

Infobox and lead

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  • Ok

Background and production

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  • The singer recorded songs phonetically initially, Selena expressed her aspirations to attain fluency in the language [...] — confusing, maybe missing a semicolon or something?

Music

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  • The record commences — I'd suggest the album commences because the word "record" is being used too much
 Done -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Originally taken from 1986's Alpha, "Acuérdate de Mi" opens the third track, [...] — is "opens" the correct term here? I interpret that as "Acuérdate de Mi" being the opening part of the third track (meaning there's more to it). Also, the standard here for citing the year would be "Alpha (1986)". So my suggestion would be The third track is "Acuérdate de Mi", originally taken from Alpha (1986), [...]
 Done -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • following "Tú No Sabes" — change to and is followed by "Tú No Sabes", otherwise it feels like "Acuérdate de Mi" comes after "Tú No Sabes".
 Done -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The subsequent tracks, "Cariño, Cariño Mío" and "Dulce Amor", are both taken from the Dulce Amor (1988) album, while "Quiero Estar Contigo" and "Terco Corazón" are taken from Preciosa (1988) — in this sentence, "The subsequent tracks" only applies to "Cariño, Cariño Mío" and "Dulce Amor", so would make it clear that the latter two songs also follow the previous ones. So something like while following tracks "Quiero Estar Contigo" [...] should do
 Done -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • While "Dime" originally appeared on Dulce Amor, "Ya Se Va" was one of the first singles released by Selena y Los Dinos in 1983 — it's not clear what position these tracks are in the album or that they follow the previous ones. Suggestion: The thirteenth track, "Dime" originally appeared on Dulce Amor, while the subsequent track, "Ya Se Va", was one of the first singles released by Selena y Los Dinos in 1983.
 Done -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Vela expressed elation upon Selena's recording of "Cien Años" (1988), [...] — Same here. Maybe Vela expressed elation upon Selena's recording of "Cien Años" (1988), included as the compilation's fifteenth track, [...]
 Done Changed to 15th as per MOS:1ST, let me know if fifteenth is better -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Scratch that, I changed it to fifteenth to be consistent with "The thirteenth track, 'Dime'" Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Release and critical reception

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  • one of his recommended listen — change to "one of his recommended listens"
 Done -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Add the year of publication for Texas Monthly's Joe Nick Patoski list in prose
 Done Should be 1992 as per source right? -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Writing for Billboard, Leila Cobo called the reissue "a collection of Selena hits". I'm not sure this is a necessary quote. The album is a greatest hits album by Selena, so it is "a collection of Selena hits" by definition.
minus Removed for now, let me know if the prime editor wants to integrate the Billboard source -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • [...] found the songs to have substantiated Selena's status as a dominant figure in the Tejano music market, they found the album [...] change the comma to a semicolon
 Done -19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Track listing

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  • Originales is mispelled
 Done -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the third track, change A. B. to A. B. Quintanilla, as he still wasn't mentioned in the track listing by then
 Done -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chart performance

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  • Ok

See also

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The links "Latin American music in the United States" and "Women in Latin music" seem too broad and don't have a very direct connection with the album. For example, I don't think every single Latin music album by a woman, especially a compilation one, would need a Women in Latin music link. Would remove both.

minus Removed -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Other + spotcheck

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  • Good sources and ref formatting
  • Spotcheck: AGF for offline sources. I might check all the online sources due to the low number of them.
  • "Regional Mexican Albums > May 5, 1990" (PDF). Billboard. Vol. 102, no. 18. May 5, 1990. Retrieved 28 May 2023.
    • Green tickY
  • Brown, Suzanne (August 11, 2002). "Playlist". The News and Observer. p. 2G. Retrieved May 27, 2023 – via Newspapers.com.
    • This only confirms the date, so information such as "As part of a commemoration of Selena's twentieth year since entering the music industry" doesn't appear referenced. However, it seems like Cobo 2002, p. 26, confirms it; can you include it alongside the Brown source?
 Done -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cobo, Leila (September 14, 2002). "Vital Reissues". Billboard. Vol. 114, no. 37. Retrieved 28 May 2023.
    • Now knowing the context, "a collection of Selena hits" is indeed just another way of saying "greatest hits albums", not her opinion about the album, so the sentence should be removed.
minus Removed -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Guerra, Joey (March 27, 2020). "Ranking Selena's albums: 'Dulce Amor' to 'Dreaming of You'". Houston Chronicle. Retrieved 28 May 2023.
    • The source says "An overview of Selena's early career." Can "overview" really be rewritten as "comprehensive examination"? You could just use "overview" or more accurate synonyms such as "general review" or "summary".
 Done Already done prior to me -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 On hold Skyshiftertalk 15:06, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Skyshifter Hey there! I'm just a random editor who happens to be stopping by after it said the OG nominator was inactive. I went around and fixed the article to the best of my abilities, ping me back if there's anything missing. Also kudos to you for reviewing and passing Skibidi Toilet lol. -Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dcdiehardfan: Thank you! The #Background and production thing was missing, but I made a change myself. I am happy to ✓ Pass this article. AJona1992, feel free to revert any change you disagree with. Skyshiftertalk 19:43, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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