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For the members of the 19th-century literary and philosophical movements, see Romanticism. For the original R&B vocal group, see Ruby & the Romantics. For the 2010 film, see The Romantics (film). For the 2023 series, see The Romantics (TV series). For other uses, see Romantic (disambiguation).
The Romantics
The Romantics in 2003
The Romantics in 2003
Background information
OriginDetroit, Michigan, U.S.
Genres
Years active1977–present
Labels
Members
Past members
  • Jimmy Marinos
  • Coz Canler
  • David Petratos
  • Clem Burke
Websitetheromanticsdetroit.com

The Romantics are an American rock band formed in 1977 in Detroit. The band is often put under the banner of power pop and new wave. They were influenced by 1950s American rock and roll, Detroit's MC5, the Stooges, early Bob Seger, Motown R&B, 1960s North American garage rock as well as the British Invasion rockers.[1]

The Romantics achieved substantial popularity in the United States, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, Canada, and Australia, with their two best-charting songs "What I Like About You", peaking at #49 in the US and #2 in Australia, and "Talking in Your Sleep", reaching #3 in the US, #1 in Canada, and #14 in Australia. The two songs have become mainstays on 1980s-focused, classic rock, and active rock radio stations. Their debut album, released on January 4, 1980, in the UK, has the distinction of being the first record to be released in that decade.

Career

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The Romantics and National Breakout (1977–1982)

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The Romantics' original lineup consisted of vocalist, rhythm guitarist, and harmonicist Wally Palmar; lead guitarist and vocalist Mike Skill; bassist and backing vocalist Rich Cole; and drummer and vocalist Jimmy Marinos. All four band members made songwriting contributions to the group, but Palmar and Skill were considered the band's primary tunesmiths. The band's first show was on Valentine's Day at My Fair Lady Club in Detroit, opening for the New MC5 in 1977. For three years, the band was on the road, playing in venues like Boston's Rathskeller, New York City's CBGB and Max's Kansas City, and Cleveland's Agora.[1][2] They were signed to Nat Weiss' Nemperor after a show at Hurrahs, and in September 1979, the band recorded their debut self-titled album with British producer Pete Solley.[2][3] The group's true record debut was the 1978 single on Spider Records, "Little White Lies" (b/w "I Can't Tell You Anything"), followed that year by the Bomp! single "Tell It to Carrie" (b/w "First in Line"). All of these were re-recorded later for the first LP.[2]

"What I Like About You", from the album The Romantics
Excerpt exemplifying the band's catchy, energetic sound and style
"Talking in Your Sleep", from the album In Heat
Excerpt
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The album sold roughly 200,000 copies[2] and yielded the hit "What I Like About You", which reached #49 in the US,[4] #8 in the Netherlands,[5] and #2 in Australia, where the band was especially popular. As all four members were singers, the straightforward beat of "What I Like About You" lent the opportunity for drummer Jimmy Marinos to take the vocals.[1]

Mike Skill left the band after the release of the album National Breakout in 1980. He was replaced by lead guitarist Coz Canler. This lineup of the band recorded the album Strictly Personal in 1981 with producer Mike Stone, who had produced for Queen.[2] Due to frustrations with the songwriting featured on the record, Rich Cole was replaced by a returning Skill, who took over as the band's bassist.[2]

Commercial success (1983–1986)

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With Skill back in, the band began playing arenas with Cheap Trick, the Kinks, and the Cars. Solley was also rehired in 1983 as their producer for their fourth album In Heat.[2] In Heat would be The Romantics' greatest commercial success, and was awarded a gold album in the United States for selling over 500,000 copies.[6] It eventually would sell over 900,000 US copies.[2] In Heat was also awarded a gold album in Canada (for over 50,000 copies sold).[7] The first single taken from In Heat, "Talking in Your Sleep", hit #3 for four weeks on the Billboard Hot 100 chart,[4] reached #2 on the Album Rock Tracks,[8] and #1 on the Hot Dance Club Play chart.[9]

It was also a global success, scoring in many other countries such as #1 in Canada[10] and #5 in Sweden.[11] The single "One in a Million" peaked at #37 during the following year on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart[4] and went to #21 on the Hot Dance Club Play Chart.[9] The Romantics' music videos frequently were shown on MTV during this period, solidifying the band's popularity. Also during 1983, the Romantics played U.S. and international tours in support of In Heat, and appeared on television shows such as Solid Gold, American Bandstand, and Soul Train.[2]

In 1984, drummer Jimmy Marinos left the Romantics, and he was replaced by David Petratos, who served as the band's drummer until 1990.[2] This lineup released one album, 1985's Rhythm Romance, which peaked at #72[4] and produced one charting single ("Test of Time" #71).[12] Detroit keyboardist Barry Warner was added to the band for the following 1985–1986 tour. Due to the tour for Rhythm Romance being thwarted by low ticket sales and mounting tension between the band and its management, The Romantics were dropped from the Sony record label.[2]

1990–present

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In the late 1980s, the Romantics discovered that their managers had been misappropriating the profits earned by the band from its records and live performances. Additionally, one of their releases (the aforementioned "What I Like About You") had been licensed for use in television commercials without the band's knowledge or approval. Consequently, the Romantics filed a lawsuit against their management in 1987, and the legalities involved prevented the band from recording new music until the mid-1990s.[13]

Former Blondie drummer Clem Burke replaced David Petratos as the Romantics' drummer in 1990. For much of the 1990s, the Romantics played obscure performances in small venues, largely forgotten and out of the public spotlight.

The Romantics' fortunes began to rise again in the middle of the 1990s, as the band's success in its lawsuit against its former management freed the band to record again (and ensured that future earnings from the licensing of Romantics songs would go to the band). The first fruit of the band's new recording activity was the 1993 UK-only EP Made In Detroit.[2] Several Romantics greatest hits packages were issued during the 1990s, as was the live album The King Biscuit Flour Hour Presents: The Romantics Live In Concert, a 1996 release of an October 1983 recording of a Romantics concert in San Antonio, Texas at the height of the band's popularity.

Jimmy Marinos, the Romantics' original drummer, temporarily returned to the band for a series of performances in 1996–1997 (with Clem Burke returning to the Romantics' drumstool after Marinos departed again). In 2003, twenty years after the release of their most commercially successful album, In Heat, the Romantics released 61/49–a more roots rock and blues-oriented record than the band's previous efforts. Although Clem Burke performed as the band's primary drummer on the release, original drummer Jimmy Marinos is featured on half of the tracks. The album was not a great commercial success.

A fourth drummer, Brad Elvis, (formerly from the Elvis Brothers, and currently the Handcuffs) replaced Clem Burke as the Romantics' regular drummer in 2004 after Burke returned full-time to a reactivated Blondie.[14]

Rich Cole returned to the band after a long absence in 2010. Longtime lead guitarist Coz Canler left the band in 2011,[15] allowing Skill to return to the original lead guitarist role he held in the band.

In 2004, the band's album 61/49 was named most Outstanding National Small/Independent Label Album at the Detroit Music Awards,[16] and in June 2011, the Romantics were voted into the Michigan Rock and Roll Legends Hall of Fame.[17]

As of 2024, the Romantics continue to play live concerts.[18]

Lawsuit

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Main article: Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s § Lawsuit

On November 21, 2007, The Romantics filed a lawsuit against Activision, RedOctane, Harmonix, and Wavegroup Sound over the cover of the song "What I Like About You" used in Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s. While the game developers did secure appropriate rights to cover the song in the game, The Romantics claim that the cover is "virtually indistinguishable from the authentic version" and thus would "[confuse] consumers into believing that the band actually recorded the music and endorsed the product". The lawsuit requested the cessation of sales of the game and monetary damage.

A summary judgment hearing was held on July 9, 2008,[19] the case was dismissed the next month, and U.S. District Judge Nancy G. Edmunds stated that Activision had obtained the proper licensing for the works and that the band no longer held the copyright on the work.[20]

Band members

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Current members

  • Wally Palmar – lead vocals, rhythm guitar, harmonica (1977–present)
  • Rich Cole – bass, vocals (1977–1982, 2010–present)
  • Mike Skill – lead guitar, vocals (1977–1981, 2010–present); bass, vocals, additional guitar (1982–2010)
  • Brad Elvis – drums, percussion (2004–present)

Former members[a]

  • Jimmy Marinos – drums, percussion, lead vocals (1977–1984, 1996–1997)
  • Coz Canler – lead guitar, vocals (1981–2011)
  • David Petratos – drums, percussion, vocals (1984–1990)
  • Clem Burke – drums, percussion (1990–1996, 1997–2004)

Touring members

  • Barry Warner – keyboards, backing vocals (1985–1986)
  • Johnny "Bee" Badanjek – drums, percussion (1992)

Timeline

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Discography

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Studio albums

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Year Album Peak positions Certifications
US
[12] 		AUS
[21] 		CAN
[22][23] 		SWE
[24]
1980 The Romantics 61 78 — —
National Breakout 176 — — —
1981 Strictly Personal 182 — — —
1983 In Heat[A] 14 — 7 33
  • CAN: Gold
  • USA: Gold[6]
1985 Rhythm Romance 72 — 62 —
2003 61/49 — — — —
"—" denotes releases that failed to chart

EPs

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Year Album
1979 Tell It to Carrie/Runnin' Away/First in Line/Let's Swing
1993 Made in Detroit
  • UK-release only

Live albums

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Year Album
1986 The Best of the Biscuit
  • Notes: Recorded at Daddy's in San Antonio, Texas on May 6, 1984
1996 The King Biscuit Flour Hour Presents: The Romantics Live in Concert
  • Notes: Recorded October 30, 1983 in San Antonio, Texas.
Live – One Night Stand

Compilation albums

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Year Album
1990 What I Like About You (And Other Romantic Hits)
1998 Super Hits

Singles

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Year Single Peak chart positions Certification Album
US
[4] 		US Main Rock
[8] 		US Dance
[9] 		AUS
[25] 		CAN
[10] 		GER
[26] 		NL
[5] 		SWE
[11] 		SWI
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1977 "Little White Lies" — x — — — — — — — Non-album singles
1978 "Tell It to Carrie" — x — — — — — — —
1980 "What I Like About You" 49 x — 2 — — 8 — — The Romantics
"When I Look in Your Eyes" — x — — — — — — —
"Tell It to Carrie" (re-release) — x — — — — — — —
"Forever Yours" — x — — — — — — — National Breakout
1981 "A Night Like This" — x — — — — — — —
"No One Like You" — — — — — — — — — Strictly Personal
1983 "Talking in Your Sleep" 3 2 1 14 1 18 24 5 20 In Heat
"Rock You Up" — 49 — — — — — — —
1984 "One in a Million" 37 22 21 — — — — — —
1985 "Test of Time" 71 44 — — — — — — — Rhythm Romance
"Mystified" — — 42 — — — — — —
2015 "Coming Back Home" — — — — — — — — — Non-album singles
"Deck the Halls" — — — — — — — — —
2016 "Daydream Believer" (The Monkees cover) — — — — — — — — —
"We Gotta Get Out of This Place" — — — — — — — — —
2017 "Hush" — — — — — — — — —
"I Fought the Law" — — — — — — — — —
"—" denotes releases that failed to chart | "x" denotes that the chart did not exist at the time.

References

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Notes

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  1. ^ Former members Jimmy Marinos, David Petratos, and Clem Burke occasionally make guest appearances. Rich Cole occasionally made guest appearances during his absence from 1982 until 2010.

Citations

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  1. ^ a b c Valcourt, Keith (August 3, 2016). "The Romantics: 'Made in Detroit'". The Washington Times. Retrieved May 5, 2019.
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l Smith, Brian (September 10, 2003). "Test of time". Detroit Metro Times. Retrieved May 5, 2019.
  3. ^ "Interview with Peter Solley". DME. December 2004. Archived from the original on February 12, 2005. Retrieved May 5, 2019.
  4. ^ a b c d e "The Romantics". billboard. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  5. ^ a b "Dutch Charts". dutchcharts. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  6. ^ a b "Gold & Platinum Searchable Database – October 21, 2014". riaa.com. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  7. ^ "Gold Album(S) Archives – Page 460 of 578". Music Canada. Retrieved October 21, 2014.
  8. ^ a b "The Romantics Chart History". billboard. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  9. ^ a b c "The Romantics Chart History". billboard. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  10. ^ a b "Item: 3131". Library and Archives Canada. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  11. ^ a b "Swedish Charts". swedishcharts. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  12. ^ a b "The Romantics Chart History". billboard. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  13. ^ Carlozo, Lou (March 11, 1998). "Romantics Learn Hard Lesson in Royalties". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved May 5, 2019.
  14. ^ Torem, Lisa (May 15, 2016). "Brad Elvis – Interview". Archived from the original on October 4, 2018. Retrieved May 5, 2019.
  15. ^ "The Romantics Settle Royalties Lawsuit with Former Member". ABC News Radio. July 24, 2013. Retrieved May 5, 2019.
  16. ^ "2004 Detroit Music Awards Winners". Music Industry News Network. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  17. ^ "Best Albums of 2008 - Michigan Rock and Roll Legends". Michiganrockandrolllegends.com. Retrieved October 8, 2021.
  18. ^ "TOUR DATES". TheRomanticsDetroit. Retrieved July 5, 2024.
  19. ^ Hochberg, Bill (August 2, 2008). "Guitar Hero, Rock Band and the Rock 'n' Roll Money Machine". Wired. Retrieved August 4, 2008.
  20. ^ Van Buskirk, Eliot (August 25, 2008). "Judge Tosses Romantics' Guitar Hero Lawsuit". Wired. Archived from the original on December 20, 2008. Retrieved November 26, 2008.
  21. ^ Kent, David (1993). Australian Chart Book 1970–1992 (illustrated ed.). St Ives, N.S.W.: Australian Chart Book. p. 257. ISBN 0-646-11917-6.
  22. ^ "Item: 3870". Library and Archives Canada. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  23. ^ "Item: 346". Library and Archives Canada. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  24. ^ "Swedish Charts". swedishcharts. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  25. ^ Kent, David (1993). Australian Chart Book 1970–1992. Australian Chart Book, St Ives, N.S.W. ISBN 0-646-11917-6.
  26. ^ "Talking in Your Sleep". Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  27. ^ "hitparade". Retrieved May 4, 2019.
  28. ^ "International Certifications" (PDF). Cash Box. October 25, 1980. p. 43. Retrieved December 3, 2021 – via World Radio History.
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