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The map in the article is not exact: many of the areas marked as "partially ethnic Slovene", were in fact inhabited by an exclusively Slovene-speaking population: the Natisone and Upper Torre Valley, Resia, western Karst (including the area between Trieste and San Giovanni di Duino, which was more than 90% Slovene even according to the Italian 1921 census), the Brda (Collio) region, etc. In fact, there were very few ethnically mixed area in the northern part of the Julian March: the city of Trieste, the Muggia Hills, the immediate rural surroundings of Koper, Izola and Piran, the westernmost part of the Brda region (Dolegna del Collio), the town of Gorizia and the suburb of Podgora (all other suburbs were more than 95% Slovene, except Lucinico, which was around 85% Italian/Friulian). In Friuli, the ethnically/linguistically mixed areas were the municipalities of Prepotto, Torreana, Montenars and some villages between Cividale and San Pietro al Natisone. Here, I'm using data from the Austrian 1910 census (but also the Italian 1921 census shows pretty much the same data). Viator slovenicus (talk) 00:36, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, the exclusively Slovene-speaking areas were even larger than it is drawn on the current version of the map. The map is drawn in favour of Italians but an anonymous Italian from Brescia removed it in his edit here, calling it a "fantasy map". What on earth is he going to call it after the corrected map shows the exclusive Slovene-speaking areas under Italianization were even larger?! DancingPhilosopher ^{my talk} 18:22, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous

there are plenty of impartial maps that depict the northern adriatic since the Austria-Hungary times, there's non need of a map made by a contributor with clear bias like you. the anonymous Italian from Brescia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.20.92.221 (talk) 16:29, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No one cared to make a map that shows the areas where Slovenes were the exclusive population annexed to Kingdom of Italy, so I had to create this one. And it is still in favour of Italians. Talk to any one else here on Wikipedia, one is the Viator Slovenicus above, if you don't believe me. --DancingPhilosopher ^{my talk} 11:30, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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capodistria pirano and isola until the exodus were venetian cities. here the austrian census of 1910:

-Pirano 7379 inhabitants: 95.97% Italians and 0.09% Slovenes;

-(1900) Capodistria 7830 inhabitants: 7205 Italians, 391 Slovenes, 167 Croats and 67 Germans;

-Isola 5955 inhabitants: 5914 Italians, 34 Slovenes and 7 Germans;

now these cities are inhabitated by slavs from all over yugoslavia. if compared to the italianization of slavic peasants it's clear who had the most lasting effects and they were not the fascist italians...

so stop fabricating fake maps dear nationalist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.50.93.194 (talk) 20:08, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Click on the map to enlarge it and you'll see that the horizontal red hash is not extended over the towns Piran/Pirano, Koper/Capodistria and Izola/Isola. This is a map of MAJOR areas, not of little spots within them that need zoom to be seen. Who's blind nationalist now, huh? Not me! You are! --DancingPhilosopher (talk) 14:14, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

^ Lipušček, U. (2012) Sacro egoismo: Slovenci v krempljih tajnega londonskega pakta 1915, Cankarjeva založba, Ljubljana. ISBN 978-961-231-871-0
^ Cresciani, Gianfranco (2004) Clash of civilisations, Italian Historical Society Journal, Vol.12, No.2, p.4

[SacroEgoismo2012-1] Lipušček, U. (2012) Sacro egoismo: Slovenci v krempljih tajnega londonskega pakta 1915, Cankarjeva založba, Ljubljana. ISBN 978-961-231-871-0

[Cresciani_ClashOfCivilisations-2] Cresciani, Gianfranco (2004) Clash of civilisations, Italian Historical Society Journal, Vol.12, No.2, p.4

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