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This coat of arms is NOT that of the Order per se, but the coat of Arms of the Order's office of Grand Master. The miter and the cardinal's hat with its nine tassels indicate high ecclestical status, and eagle and the golden cross with the fleur-de-lis at each end, as well as the crossed crozier and sword, are badges of his rank as Grand Master, I believe.

I think the actual Arms of the Order itself is the simple black cross on white that is beneath the superimposed golden decorated cross.

It would be better if this excellent drawing were kept but identified the coArms of the Grand Master and a drawing of the Arms of the Order itself: the simple black cross on a white field were also made and linked to the Order itself.--StanZegel 06:03, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, it can be that it is Grand Master coat of arms. You see, I have made at the begining CoA of dr Bruno Platter (current Grand Master) it was based on this black-white version. I have asked my German friend to ask at order office what colours should I use, so he will check it (now I have a break from Wikipedia till october). This CoA is based on German post mark made on 800 years of Teutonic Order. On that mark there was that CoA and seal and sentence like: "800 Jahre von Deutscher Orden", that post mark had colours, so I had known what colours should I use. That's why I have written that it is order CoA. On their home site is simple logo with black cross on a white field. Oh, it isn't only cardinals hat (cardinal have red hat), here are catholic heraldical templates. -PioM _EN _DE _PL 14:03, 17 August 2005 (UTC)