File talk:Telectronics' first heart pacemaker 1964.JPG

This pacemaker is the P3 pacemaker the P1 was made by Noel Gray when he was a Kriesler and I can prove this by his former associats with this organization, so I think you sould for your own good correct the entry and give it it's correct nomenclature it is the Telectronics P3 pacemaker. (Black dog) The pacemaker in this entry has no proof that it is the P1. Telectronics made a number of pacemakers before its first commercially available pacemaker the p4. The pacemaker is a P3 which comes just before P4 and logic alone would tell that this is the name for it if this is not enough? There are no photographs of the P2 or P1. The work on these pacemakers was before Wickham met Nicks who is under the delusion that he introduced pacemakers to Telectronics. This is factually incorrect and he is mistaken to think this. His work was on a partially implantable pacemaker made for him by former Kriesler engineer Eddy Hume, why isn't he telling the truth about this device? Because he wants to be remembered as the founbder of Australia's pacemaker. This is something he does not deserve and is totally unproven whithou the support of Jeffcoat and Wickham. An dnoe Robert Foot and the SMH obit for Trainor. These are all liars and should be exposed as they will be one day. His edits of the Noel Gray page are offensive and should be blocked since he did not kn ow Noel Gray and has a vested interest to protect, no matter how misguided that is. He did not intorduce pacemakers to telectronics founder finanial backed and managing director Noe Gray. That is a fact. (TUV) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.164.10.246 (talk) 10:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)